[ccmay]

I would have had a lot more sympathy for this argument ten years ago. Now, I look at what we have achieved, or failed to achieve, in Iraq and Afghanistan, and wonder whether it was worth all our dead boys.

Three years after we leave, things will be back to the way they were, if not worse. Shouldn’t we have just bombed the crap out of Afghanistan, or fought a limited Special Forces action, and left Saddam Hussein alone? It seems more so to me with each day that passes.

All that rhetoric from W about Muslims wanting American-style freedom was in vain. They want nothing of the sort. They want the whip of the State on their backs. Let them fester in poverty and ignorance for another ten thousand years; they are unworthy of a single drop of American blood to lift them out of their medieval squalor.

[Georgia Girl 2]

The GOPe smearing of Rand Paul is in full sway. They will start on Ted Cruz also. This is all about getting around to jamming Jeb Bush or a Jeb like candidate down our plebe throats.

[what's up]

Now, I look at what we have achieved, or failed to achieve, in Iraq and Afghanistan,

For years now we have not had to concern ourselves with attacks coming from either the Iraqi or Afgan gov'ts.

Think that would have happened without the wars?