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1 posted on 04/20/2014 9:35:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The Ernst Rohm faction is alive and well in Barry’s “Fundamentally Transformed” Amerika.


2 posted on 04/20/2014 9:43:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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They duplicated, what they hated. Absolutely amazing. The power of a hate movement.


3 posted on 04/20/2014 9:45:35 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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I’ve heard this conversation before.

HANS: You know, I kind of miss the Schwartz family. They were nice neighbors.

OTTO: And that butcher down the road. And the doctor.

HANS: There’s a disturbing pattern of some people just leaving the neighborhood suddenly. And it isn’t the doctor’s fault about his ancestors.

OTTO: Well, there’s no right to be a doctor or a butcher.


4 posted on 04/20/2014 9:46:17 PM PDT by redpoll
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Felonize gays again.


6 posted on 04/20/2014 9:49:17 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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And he got his in the end after he had served his usefulness.


7 posted on 04/20/2014 9:50:24 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again - the phags are playing with fire and they’re gonna get burned. The retribution will be swift and it will be brutal, and I DGAS what happens to them.


8 posted on 04/20/2014 9:50:28 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Rohm was a weird guy fer sure.

Personally, I don’t give a hoot if someone is gay. I do, however, care if someone tries to harm another just because they hold different views.

i.e. I think socialists are moronic because they ignore human nature in their ideology. They think people will work just as hard to support others as they would to support themselves...it’s asinine! But I would never try to harm someone who held socialist views.

There is a word that describes people who have no moral qualms that prevent them from trying to harm others.
SOCIOPATH


9 posted on 04/20/2014 9:50:58 PM PDT by Bobalu (Four Cokes And A Fried Chicken)
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Who made donation lists public, inquiring minds want to know?


11 posted on 04/20/2014 9:55:56 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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Very disturbed people.


12 posted on 04/20/2014 9:59:31 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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“Barack Obama in 2008 was opposed to marriage equality.”

Everyone knew he was lying. So it was OK.


13 posted on 04/20/2014 10:26:53 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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Oh, great, now we’ll have a Rainbow Knockout Game.


19 posted on 04/20/2014 10:53:27 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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From The Poisoned Stream – this is by no means all the info on Rohm:

Hitler’s Chosen Associates

Igra writes, “Just as the Kaiser had done in pre-war Germany, Hitler gathered homosexuals around him. The moral pervert, Captain Ernst Rohm, who gave Hitler his first start and helped more than any other person to bring him to power, was his intimate friend for more than fourteen years. When the private doings of the National Socialist leaders in his immediate entourage became known throughout Germany and even abroad, Hitler saw that his own career was in peril. He tried to prove an alibi by getting rid of a number of his friends in the horrible ‘blood purge’ of June 30, 1934. But a large number of sex perverts still remained in Hitler’s entourage and continued to rule Germany, as they did in the Kaiser’s time.

* * *

William Shirer on Nazi Homosexuals

Upon his death on December 28, 1993 William Shirer was glowingly eulogized by the New York Times News Service and the Associated Press. His classic Nazi history, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (Fawcett Crest, 1960) was hailed upon its release as “One of the most important works of history of our time,” by The New York Times and “Superb History” by the Chicago Tribune. The following quotes are excerpted from Shirer’s 1960 paperback edition:

Shirer writes,

There were two members of this insignificant [Nazi] party who deserve mention at this point; both were to prove important in the rise of Hitler...Captain Ernst Rohm...had joined the party before Hitler...A tough, ruthless driving man — albeit, like so many of the early Nazis, a homosexual—he helped organize the first Nazi strong-arm squads which grew into the SA.... Dietrich Eckart...often called the spiritual founder of National Socialism...became a close advisor to [Hitler]... introducing him to...such future aides as Rudolf Hess [also homosexual](p. 64f.).

* * *

Igra continues: “The vices of Captain Rohm, commander of the storm troops, with three million men under his control, were a matter of world-wide knowledge and comment. Baldur von Schirach, Reich Leader of the Youth from the time of Hitler’s accession to power until 1939, was arrested by the police for perverse sexual practices and liberated on the intervention of Hitler, who soon afterwards made him leader of the Hitler Youth. Among the S.S. and S.A. group-leaders and gauleiters the more outstanding criminals in this matter were Edmond Heines, S.A. group-leader at Breslau, Julius Streicher, gauleiter of the Nuremberg district, and Kube of the Frankfort-on-Oder district. Heydrich, Deputy Chief of the Gestapo, was dismissed from the Navy for immoral sexual conduct. This criminal list might be lengthened to fill many pages.

On Ernst Rohm and the Early SA

Excerpted from German journalist Heinz Hohne’s The Order of the Death’s Head: The Story of Hitler’s SS (Ballentine Books, 1969), praised by The New York Times Book Review as “A monumental achievement.”

[EXCERPT] In Ernst Rohm, the new Chief of Staff of the SA, Hitler was keeping a man who was running the SA through a ring of blatant homosexuals and turning the National-Socialist revolutionary army into a pervert’s playground.

Rohm had never made any secret of his tendencies saying ‘I admit straightaway that I do not belong to the goody-goodies, and have no desire to do so.’ Any attempt by the State ‘to regulate human instincts by law or divert them into other channels’ he countered with a quotation from Richard Wagner: ‘Folly, folly, everywhere folly.” He rejected with scorn protests by leading National-Socialists. He told the Berlin Dr. Heinsoth, for instance: ‘I am quarreling violently with that blockhead moralist Alfred Rosenberg. His articles are aimed primarily at me since I have never made any mystery of my views. That is obvious since in my case ‘people’ have had to get used to these criminal goings-on in National Socialist circles.

Rohm’s abnormal leanings had been common knowledge since he had taken a Berlin gigolo, Herman Siegesemund, to court for theft of a suitcase. On the evening of 13 January 1925 Rohm had invited Siegesmund to a glass of beer in the Berlin Marienkasino followed by the usual sequel to such an encounter. Siegesmund stated in evidence: ‘While we were sitting fully clothed in the room of the hotel, Herr Rohm took a cigarette case from his pocket; I noticed that a slip of paper fell out and I picked it up. About half an hour later I left the hotel room because Herr Rohm expected me to take part in a form of sexual intercourse which was abhorrent to me and to which I would not agree. Out in the street I found that the slip of paper which I had taken while up in the room was a luggage ticket belonging to Herr Rohm.’ Siegesmund collected the suitcase, which proved to contain a bundle of compromising letters.

Hitler knew all about Rohm’s tendencies but insisted they were his own affair. When Rohm took on his job as Chief of Staff of the SA, Hitler, who was still officially head of the SA, issued a parting order that the SA was ‘not a girl’s finishing school, but a tough fighting formation.’ Complaints about people’s private habits he rejected ‘indignantly and on principle’ as ‘supposition’ and ‘entirely private matters.’

Rohm’s amorous adventures, however, were anything but ‘an entirely private matter.’ He used the SA for ends other than the purely political. SA contact men kept their Chief of Staff supplied with suitable partners, and at the first sign of infidelity on the part of a Rohm favorite, he would be bludgeoned down by one of the SA mobile squads. The head pimp was a shop assistant named Peter Granninger, who had been one of Rohm’s partners...and was now given cover in the SA Intelligence Section. For a monthly salary of 200 marks he kept Rohm supplied with new friends, his main hunting ground

Germany’s National Vice Revisited being Geisela High School Munich; from this school he recruited no fewer than eleven boys, whom he first tried out and then took to Rohm. Meanwhile, some of Rohm’s more dubious friends had occupied senior SA positions left vacant as a result of the Stennes revolt.

The general meeting-point for the Granninger circle and the SA homosexuals was Rohm’s reserved table in the Bratwurstglockl, Munich. The proprietor, Karl Zehnter, was a homosexual himself whom Granninger had ‘assisted’ at his home. Another homosexual and longstanding habitue of Rohm’s table was the new Berlin Commander, Edmund Heines....Karl Ernst, the new SA Chief of Staff, Berlin, had been a partner of Captain Rohrbein, ex-Frontbahn, who had also been seen with Rohm in Berlin homosexual dives such as the Kleist-Kasino and Silhouette. This ring of perverted SA commanders seemed unbreakable (Hohne:81f.). [END EXCERPT]

The facts cited above relating to Rohm are taken primarily from the Munchner Post, 30 June, 1931. The facts relating to the SA are taken from the “Judgment of the Criminal Division of the Munich Civil Court,” November, 1934, case against Peter Granninger and others, Central Archives, Microfilm 17.

I would like to add an additional segment on Rohm and the early Nazis. The following is particularly significant because it is written by Adolf Brandt. As founder of the Community of the Elite and publisher of Der Eigene, the world’s first openly homosexual magazine, Brandt was one of the most influential homosexuals in Germany and is thus an especially important witness. Note his reference to the Teutons.

Adolf Brandt on Homosexuality in the Nazi Party

This excerpt from Brandt’s writings is from Homosexuality and Male Bonding in Pre-Nazi Germany (Haworth Press 1991), by Harry Oosterhuis and Hubert Kennedy.

[EXCERPT] Men such as Captain Rohm, are, to our knowledge, no rarity at all in the National Socialist Party. It rather teems there with homosexuals of all kinds. And the joy of man in man, which has been slandered in their papers so often as an oriental vice although the Edda frankly extols it as the highest virtue of the Teutons, blossoms around their campfires and is cultivated and fostered by them in a way done in no other male union that is reared on party politics.

The threatened hanging on the gallows, with which they allege they want to exterminate homosexuals, is therefore only a horrible gesture that is supposed to make stupid people believe that the Hitler people, in the matter of male-to-male inclinations, are all as innocent as pigeons and pure as angels, just like the pious members of the Christian Society of the Virgin...The public threat against the homosexuals has in the meantime not frightened any youth-friend or man-friend into deserting this party. One knows perfectly well that all those public threats are only paper masks (Oosterhuis and Kennedy:236f.). [END EXCERPT]

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20 posted on 04/20/2014 11:10:40 PM PDT by Sally ("This is the only Administration I've ever been in where it's 100% politics 100% of the time.")
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oh- you mean they finally noticed?

They need to look out for their own jobs next


21 posted on 04/21/2014 12:19:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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So there's a question of whether or not all the sort of fury targeted at him and this one sort of, you know, attempt to oust him is in proportion to any threat that he represents to gay people in the future.

What question? It wasn't about any imagined future threats to gay people, it was about revenge. Payback. Exactly the sort of thing Valerie Jarrett threatened conservatives with. If Kim is surprised to find his activist friends turn out to be ugly, vengeful, hateful, violent people, he's likely the very last to notice it.

23 posted on 04/21/2014 12:50:24 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Now that the homosexuals believe they have the high ground, there are those who can’t wait to take advantage of their newly acquired power to torment other human beings. It is just like the anti-Irish hatred of the late 1800s that encouraged job discrimination, ostracization and stigmatization. Human nature has a bullying nature, when given free reign, will resort to savage inhumanity. These homosexuals are falling in line with that pattern.

It is almost like the goal to their quest for equality was really to have the upper reign over other human beings in order to satisfy a sadistic desire to torment. We are seeing the rise of the Hitler Syndrome.


24 posted on 04/21/2014 12:58:56 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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Like others here, I also have been aware of Ernst Rohm history, and have been wondering all these recent years where is the hyper ‘masculine’ Rohm faction, are they staying in the shadows, are they still even there? It appears that faction is starting to come forward but notice, since this is the beginning, that you still can’t identify a Rohm yet. I would also point out, again what most posters on this thread know, that the misconception that all gays are effeminate(and therefore not really a threat or danger) has allowed the ruthless hyper ‘masculine’ Rohm factions to progress. They have been so stealth I had hoped maybe it didn’t exist like it had in Germany. The general publics’ view that gays(effeminate) can just be dismissed is a fatal mistake.


25 posted on 04/21/2014 2:30:24 AM PDT by Duke of Milan
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Interesting. More than a week ago I was listening to Rush and he called them the brown shirt faction. I explained to my wife that the brownshirts were the SA and were comprised mainly of homosexuals, their founder and leader being Ernst Rohm. I wondered at the time if Rush did that on purpose or did he actually just stumble on it. I beginning to believe he did it on purpose. Most people - especially the vast majority of the media - probably missed the connection.


26 posted on 04/21/2014 3:41:23 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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So let’s imagine the backlash if there was a similar effort to find and remove every employee who supported gay rights in a company. The Rainbow Mafia would make the Watts riots look like a Sunday get-together.


28 posted on 04/21/2014 4:50:54 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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