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To: caww
Well first of all it certainly isn’t like denying the Holocaust...at least make a reasonable assessment of not only how I see it but many others as well. When you begin a response with a derogatory statement as that it reveals other than a sincere desire to communicate.

I consider the comment fit, since you do not even give a voice to the Ukrainians themselves, but proxy it off describing it as a "US/EU" conspiracy. IOW, the dead Ukrainians, the first being an ethnic Arab I believe, and the Ukrainians themselves, are not even given their own "story," but we must prefer your opinion and the "many others" who share it within the fringe NWO conspiracy community. A "sincere desire to communicate", in the sense of a dialogue between two equals, is impossible when one party spouts Kremlin propaganda like fact.

I do not respect the opinions of those who denigrate the people of Ukraine and ready them for the slaughter.

You are clearly under the impression that there are innocent parties and players in Ukraine and that is where your problem is....there are no innocent parties in this....

This is only your baseless opinion repeated a second time, but at least you spared us anything new from Itas-Rass or Russia Today.

20 posted on 04/20/2014 12:59:18 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You are assuming Puny, that I have a side in what's happening in Ukraine..I don't. But I am a realist and the evidence continues to be clear that the people of Ukraine have little to do with what is happening now in the direction Ukraine will go....it passed from their hands when the Private Sector took control of their protest, and this with assistance from the US in positioning the Interim Governing body........Need you be reminded of Nulands comments of who should assume official positions long before the gov. had toppled? It's on tape and well known.....

No-body's denigrating the Ukrainian people....they just understand the the state of affairs the country is in and has been, for they continue to miss opportunities given them by electing the same Oligarchs that got them in this state of affairs in the first place.... take a look at who is running...they still haven't learned!

There are powers that be who determine how this plays out now, regardless of what the people might want otherwise.... They have 'NO MONEY' therefore 'No Power".... to do anything with, or influence anywhere....that's just how it is.

Has Ukraine received any money other than enough to stabilize the gov? No. and they won't because they have chosen thus far not to go fully with the EU and live under austerity... The EU is only going so far in helping them (trade etc. with a return for that )because they do not want a welfare state added to the ones already dragging the EU down.

Ukraines have their stories....they've been heard for many years and little changes from the last chapter shared......instead of complaining they need to figure out how to work with what they got and make it beneficial for the nation...I don't see that happening without Russia's help...and though some don't like it..that is what it is.

If I don't like my boss, but have no place to go otherwise, I'm going to utilize what I can within that environment. And if it's unbearable...I'll pick up and leave the area altogether. Won't be the first time people move from one country to another for the freedoms they seek.

24 posted on 04/20/2014 2:07:17 PM PDT by caww
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