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To: wita

The best body armor out there doesn’t hold up very well against rifle ammo like .30-06 or 7.62 mm, and none of it covers one’s face. If a shooting war ever starts, there will be many casualties on both sides. That’s why both sides better think twice (thrice!) before giving up on the ballot box. People in government who push for violence and rebels who are eager to go to blows with the government need to be aware that the violence and destruction goes both ways and the end results are unpredictable. A rebellion that loses would guarantee far more tyranny than we currently have for example.

The ballot box and peaceful, nonviolent protest/civil disobedience like we saw at the Bundy ranch are still the best means to resolve our differences peacefully.


39 posted on 04/19/2014 12:25:10 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it!)
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To: CitizenUSA

Two points:
The other side has already given up on the ballo box, in that they routinely practice voter fraud as standard procedure; and they rule by beaureaucratic edict (regulation) regardless of the will of the people.

The folks on Bundy’s ranch were armed and willing to do violence if necessary.


49 posted on 04/19/2014 12:35:59 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: CitizenUSA

Really the Ballot box is one of the best ways?

Is that how we got Obama twice?

When the dead, and even pets are voting?

I have no desire for a shooting war, but this Ol Marine ain’t afraid of one either.


119 posted on 04/19/2014 2:05:34 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: CitizenUSA

With massive voter fraud they have already taken away the ballot box and they are the ones instigating violence.


121 posted on 04/19/2014 2:11:19 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: CitizenUSA
The ballot box and peaceful, nonviolent protest/civil disobedience like we saw at the Bundy ranch are still the best means to resolve our differences peacefully.

Absolutely agree with you. What is interesting is how the media is trying to spin the confrontation as one of violence. There was not a shot fired. There was, however, the implication that people were ready and willing to die right there, but they were going to take some Fedcoats with them. And that has scared the absolute crap out of reptiles like Scary Reid.

What needs to be the concern now is Feds infiltrating militia and instigating conflict from within... being the first to fire if ever another situation like this arises.

125 posted on 04/19/2014 2:23:12 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: CitizenUSA

The first Civil war cost a full 2% of the population. If that number repeats, that would mean in excess of 6 million dead based on today’s population. Scary thought indeed.


163 posted on 04/19/2014 3:47:35 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: CitizenUSA; wita; GilesB; Shadowstrike; Eagles6; DariusBane
The time of the ballot box is over. Too many people still cling to the quaint belief that everything will be restored to sunshine and candy skies, if we just get "our people" selected in the next cycle. When election fraud and voter intimidation on a national scale goes unchallenged, the defrauded party is only two things: either unable to fight, or unwilling.

The time of the mail box and the soap box is also over. Do you people honestly seriously think that letters to your selected officials get read? Or that email rants are read? As Heinlein observed, "What right does a drowning man have in the middle of the sea? The ocean will not hearken to his cries." FReeps and protests make for good copy and great pics, but it's all kabuki theater to placate you. Your voice will not be heard through the doors of power.

The time of the jury box has had its last hurrah. The Zimmerman Trial was an aberration, a fluke. What redress do you think the black-robed priests will offer you? One intimidated judge declared that Odinga found a loophole in the Constitution and helped tip this nation over the precipice.

That leaves only one box left.

Get yours, while there's still time. You are up against a political ideology, foreign to these shores and alien to the good of Mankind, who have demonstrated they have more backbone and resolve than you do. As Chuckie Schumer said, "We're united, you're not."

They are willing to weaponize a segment of the population against you, and the merest threat of that weapon has already changed the course of two elections.

This conflict within our borders can only be resolved "by other means".

183 posted on 04/19/2014 7:50:19 PM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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