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What Really Happed at the Bay of Pigs
Townhall.com ^ | April 19, 2014 | Humberto Fontova

Posted on 04/19/2014 5:24:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/19/2014 5:24:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
What Really Happed at the Bay of Pigs

A new verb?

2 posted on 04/19/2014 5:27:44 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Kaslin

I hadn’t heard all of this. “Coat and tails”...


3 posted on 04/19/2014 5:29:22 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Kaslin

Saint JFK just another slimy politician. Whodathunk?


4 posted on 04/19/2014 5:29:34 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

And the sad thing is that it’s not a transcription error. It actually says that on the web site headline.


5 posted on 04/19/2014 5:32:27 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Yeah. I checked that before posting. Sad, very sad and lazy. I mean, even a spell checker would catch that.


6 posted on 04/19/2014 5:35:22 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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even a spell checker would catch that

It appears a spell checker did catch it but even the spell checker didn't detract from the message. Thanks for sharing.

7 posted on 04/19/2014 5:44:14 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Kaslin

This single event is the most upsetting of the JFK decisions.


8 posted on 04/19/2014 5:44:34 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Kaslin

Heartbreaking.


9 posted on 04/19/2014 5:50:31 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Kaslin
IIRC, there were a few expatriate Cuban pilots flying air support. Do not know what type of planes.
10 posted on 04/19/2014 5:51:29 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: wastoute

“Saint JFK” - just another Benghazi politician.

Kind of like Benghazi except much much worse.

And then “Saint JFK” apologized to the nation for the Bay of Pigs and is beloved for his humility. He also gets sainted by letting his PT boat get rammed.

JFK also got schooled by Khrushchev just like our bamster is with Putin.


11 posted on 04/19/2014 5:52:06 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Kaslin

this incident is what lead to castro requesting and giving permission to russia to place nukes on the island..

jfk did not solve the cuban missile crisis...

jfk CAUSED the cuban missile crisis...


12 posted on 04/19/2014 5:54:10 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: G Larry

“This single event is the most upsetting of the JFK decisions.”

Upsetting, yes. But for a democrat it is par for the course.


13 posted on 04/19/2014 5:59:44 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Kaslin
Talked to Americans who were in the government at the time. As I understand the situation, not only did JFK cancel the air support but he informed the Castro government about the landing. The communists were set and waiting for the freedom fighters to fall into the trap.
He, and Obama, are what passes for great Americans to the democrats..
14 posted on 04/19/2014 6:18:24 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: PeaRidge
Do not know what type of planes.

B-26 Intruders. One of the coolest planes ever.

I was living in Miami near the small Cuban (at that time) community.
It was terrible that JFK abandoned those men. Brigade 2506.

15 posted on 04/19/2014 6:20:24 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

CRS.. AKA A-26 Invader.


16 posted on 04/19/2014 6:22:50 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: joe fonebone

We have been paying heavily in blood and treasure since JFR betrayed the Cuban patriots during the Bay of Pigs invasion and mishandled the October Missile Crisis burying for good the Monroe Doctrine, another treason, this time U.S. was the direct victim of JFK incompetence.

The secret accord between JFK and Nikita Khrushchev gave Castro the green light to subvert Latin America and to send Cuban troops to Africa counting with the protection of the promise of JFK that the US government will not allow any attack to Castro’s regime departing U.S or from any other country in this hemisphere.


17 posted on 04/19/2014 6:22:59 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: ArtDodger

A Beautiful Mediocrity: JFK was a so-so president, a deeply flawed man.

National Review ^ | 11/20/2013 | The Editors
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3093553/posts

By almost any measure, John F. Kennedy was a middling president at best, and an occasionally disastrous one. The Bay of Pigs fiasco, the Cuban missile crisis, setting the nation on the wrong course in Vietnam, his nepotism, the spying on political rivals — all must weigh heavily in our judgment of his presidency. And while Kennedy the president was a middle-of-the-range performer at best, Kennedy the man has been relentlessly diminished by the eventual revealing of the facts of his day-to-day life.

Conservatives who see in Kennedy a committed combatant in the Cold War and a supply-side tax-cutter must keep in mind his bungling at home and abroad. Liberals who see in Kennedy a receptacle for all they hold holy must keep in mind his calculating cynicism — for example, his opposition to civil-rights legislation when he believed its passage would strengthen the Republican president proposing it. Kennedy’s virtues — his vocal anti-Communism, his assertive sense of the American national interest, his tax-cutting — would hardly make him a welcome figure among those who today claim his mantle. His vices, on the other hand, are timeless.

The Cuban missile crisis is generally presented as the great episode of Kennedy’s hanging tough in the face of Communist aggression, but, like so much about Kennedy’s life, that story represents a triumph of public relations over substance. Kennedy gave up much more than he let on to resolve the crisis, agreeing to remove U.S. missiles from Turkey — on the condition that the concession remain secret, so as not to undermine his political career or his brother’s. And the Cuban missile crisis was brought on in no small part by Kennedy’s inviting displays of weakness:

His performance at the 1961 Vienna summit made little impression on Nikita Khrushchev, and within a few months the Berlin Wall was under construction. After the Bay of Pigs, the Soviets had little reason to suppose that Cuba was anything but a safe port for them.

But Kennedy had a gift for spinning gold out of goof-ups.
John Kennedy looms large in the American imagination, but not for anything he accomplished in office. He was a handsome and vivacious man whose ascendancy coincided with that of television, a politician who was one part royal, one part movie star. That Americans found his celebrity and his pretensions to aristocracy appealing is beyond argument; however, it does not speak well of our political culture. But as created personas go, JFK was a doozy: He won the Pulitzer Prize for a book largely written by somebody else; his reputation as an intellectual was largely the creation of Arthur Schlesinger; and his family was figuratively and perhaps literally in bed with Joe McCarthy (who dated two of the Kennedy women), but the stigma of McCarthyism has never attached itself to his name.

His pathological sexual appetites gave him the reputation of a charming rogue, when the truth is that he was closer to a mid-century Anthony Weiner. He was a veteran with an admirable military record, an unexceptional and difference-splitting senator with an Irish name: But for his celebrity, he would have been John McCain or John Kerry.

Kennedy did not transform the country, but he did transform the presidency – largely for the worse. Combining grandiose rhetoric with shallow policy, he established the modern template of president as media hero, beginning the conversion of the office of the presidency from that of chief administrator of the federal government to the modern grotesquery it has become. The main effects of his time in the White House were to make his immediate predecessor look like Cincinnatus by comparison and to unleash the ugliness of Johnson and Johnsonism on the republic after his martyrdom at the hands of a deranged Communist. That Lyndon Johnson, a man he detested, was Kennedy’s political heir is a testament to the fact that there was hardly any devil he was unwilling to get in bed with if it brought him political power.

And what did he do with that power? Among the heaviest burdens facing the American public in 2013 are the direct expenses and unfunded liabilities associated with Medicare and Medicaid, two ill-shaped programs conceived of by the Kennedy administration but executed under Johnson — which is to say, we’ll be paying the price for Kennedy’s grand dreams for a long time to come.

He looked great in a suit, and he could deliver an applause line with the best of them. We may grieve the murder of a president, but our grief should not blind us to what kind of president, or man, he was.


18 posted on 04/19/2014 6:28:04 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Kaslin

Two of my classmates survived the Bay of Pigs and prison to escape and eventually got his PhD in Chemical Engineering. He never talked about it. I learned about him from other Cuban students.

He never talked about it, but the words he used for Castro and Kennedy cannot be printed here.


19 posted on 04/19/2014 6:32:57 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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If you promise AIR SUPPORT, you better give AIR SUPPORT!

Or else you will have to ransom some the participants captured and in prison by giving the ENEMY lots of money, medical supplies and 500 tractors.

According to this article there are still survivors in Cuban prisons. It was not agricultural tractors but industrial tractors like Caterpillar type tractors.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/december/24/newsid_3295000/3295045.stm

http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/teachinger/glossary/tractors-for-freedom-com.cfm

And after 54 years, the Castros are still trying to make "La Revolo-o-shun" a success.

20 posted on 04/19/2014 6:44:07 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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