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To: Enlightened1

Because you are a dumb ass?

Did you ID your target? A big white guy in desert camo with American weapons is probably not Taliban.

Did you have any situational awareness where the rest of your platoon was before you opened fired?

And PS - the unit was not even under enemy fire when this incident happened.

2banana - OEF Veteran.


8 posted on 04/18/2014 12:39:45 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

Just saying... That might be harsh given the circumstances. From what I remember reading at the time Tillman came over a ridge with a one or two others, they weren’t ordered to so it was not like this was coordinated at any level. The guys that shot were very exposed looking at gunmen taking a position on a hill above them.


9 posted on 04/18/2014 1:11:14 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: 2banana

Look I do no not fault the Rangers for shooting Pat Tillman.

Unfortunately that happens in combat.

General Patton was notorious for killing his own guys in a race to get into Germany. I did not even know that until I spoke to two different WWII veterans (at different times in my life) that both told me that. Both combat vets did not like the General at all. That’s why they nick named him old blood and guts.

Anyhow, I did not care for the Feds lying (once again) about the incident.

I feel awful for Pat and all the Rangers involved.


11 posted on 04/19/2014 12:11:12 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: 2banana

I agree. After reading Krakauer’s Where Men Win Glory, I sure got the impression that this was much worse than simply “fog of war” confusion. It was a complete fustercluck.


12 posted on 04/19/2014 12:27:36 PM PDT by Benito Cereno
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To: 2banana

You might want to check the after action reports. Tillman was operating with an Afghani in local garb. They were, IIRC, attempting to get eyes on some Taliban who stopped the tail-end of their convoy. The gunners took the Afghani-ally and Tillman under fire.

What’s the range on a Ma-Deuce? It’s considerable. You’d need binoculars to ID the targets among the rocks above the convoy. And if they spotted the Afghani first...


14 posted on 04/23/2014 2:03:23 PM PDT by Tallguy
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