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To: Andy'smom; xzins; Ray76; BuckeyeTexan; All

Listen to the first segment of Mark Levin’s 4/15 show (about ten minutes or so) and hear his excellent explanation of what our Marxist environmental fascists are doing and why they are running ranchers, farmers, miners, fisheries, etc, off the land (and water) and ultimately completely out of business:

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=2591&c=10771&f=2680973

And the fact that the tortoise is not even an endangered species anymore and if that was the underlying cause of locking up the desert land, why have they not since backed off?

And if Ranchers, miners, etc, are not allowed on the land, why is the BLM now pushing for solar development on it?


36 posted on 04/17/2014 3:09:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
And if Ranchers, miners, etc, are not allowed on the land, why is the BLM now pushing for solar development on it?

Because the solar power companies will pay more than the rancher can. Pure and simple, this is about $.

61 posted on 04/17/2014 3:40:50 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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maybe there’s a clue here somewhere. Farmers, ranchers, miners, etc, who are near infrastructure, can be pushed off their land easier than trying to locate into an area with litle infrastructure. Water is an important element to this:

https://www.acgov.org/cda/planning/landuseprojects/documents/Distributed_vs_Utility_Scale.pdf

“Physically possible to construct in urbanized settings, but the difficulty of coordination of many landowners and the probably substantial costs of permitting in urban zones would be prohibitive at present.”

“Finally, the presence of water rights for agriculture and the potential loss of those rights in the event of onsite agricultural dormancy could be an obstacle to eventual ag restoration and thus to permitting of the solar facility. Various other ordinances and policies on biological, cultural and visual resources are important, along
with water conservation policies if the proposed installation is a thermal installation (which require large amounts of water, unlike PV installations).”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/uciliawang/2013/10/31/the-rise-of-a-giant-solar-power-plant-in-californias-central-plain/

... received a $1.2 billion federal loan guarantee from a program that drew controversy for its $535 million loan guarantee to help Solyndra build a solar panel factory.

NRG Energy NRG -1.35% bought the project from SunPower in 2011... NRG is co-owner of... the Ivanpah project ...being brought online by BrightSource Energy.

Ivanpah also has benefited from the same federal loan guarantee program. The program’s two other completed solar power projects are the 280-megawatt Solana by Abengoa Solar in Arizona and the 150-megawatt Mesquite Solar project in Arizona by Sempra Generation.


83 posted on 04/17/2014 4:21:48 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Jim Robinson
And the fact that the tortoise is not even an endangered species anymore and if that was the underlying cause of locking up the desert land, why have they not since backed off?

Exactly.

Not my image, because it's not exactly accurate.
The USA did not set off hundreds of nukes in that desert, it set off over 1000 - some 1100 nuclear weapons were detonated just outside of vegas and now they're all hot and bothered about some cows.

85 posted on 04/17/2014 4:25:40 PM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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It’s an leftist assault on Americana from one end of the spectrum to the other.


110 posted on 04/17/2014 5:11:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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