But there are two different kinds of Old Testament scriptures that foretell the messiah:
1. The kind you can identify by comparing them to parallels in the New Testament, and
2. The kind you can identify without the comparison.
Do you understand?
2. The kind you can identify without the comparison.
Do you understand?
Then there MUST be a list of them.
Could you post them so so in your class can get extra credit?
How is it YOU cannot understand? There was no New Testament in the days of Christ. None. Not even a Paul [he was Saul, “a Pharisee of the Pharisees” who was a student of one of the foremost teachers of the Jewish scriptures of his day (Gamaliel)]. Don’t you think the Jews of Christ’s day were at least just as smart and inquisitive as you concerning such a monumental decision about a person many of them had only heard about? Don’t you think they were wondering about the character and nature of THEIR messiah just a “little” more than YOU (unless you were/are a Jew) when it came to deciding about the veracity of Christ’s messiah-ship knowing that accepting Him as such would mean sure persecution and ostracism from friend and foe alike? Every one of the disciples, and then every one of those JEWS who were converted during the early days of the church had ONLY the OT scriptures to assess Christ’s merits. Coupled with Christ’s own life and testimony, these scriptures persuaded them that He was, in fact, their messiah.
But somehow a_perfect_lady has got it in her head that she has a sounder grasp on the OT than these of the early church. You know what that sounds like, don’t you.
Peter responds to those who would question how it is he and the early disciples came to the realization of who Christ was/is:
2Pe 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
2Pe 1:18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Christ’s believers don’t follow some “parallel” version of the OT, but rather its fulfillment. The OT isn’t negated by the NT, it looks forward to it. Now, you really must stop with your argument that all decisions for Christ are born through some negation of the OT. They (the OT scriptures) are the very proof-texts that provide the final support for all discerning believers’ decisions for Christ.
Now, I suppose, you’ll go through THIS post and strain out the gnat (whilst swallowing the camel).