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To: A_perfect_lady

1. Messiah was to be born in Bethlehem —Micah 5?2
2. Messiah was to be born of a virgin — Isaiah 7:14
3.Messiah was to be a prophet like Moses— Deut 18:15,18,19
4. Messiah was to enter Jerusalem in triumph — Zech 9:9
5. Messiah was to be rejected by His own people — Isaiah 53:1,3, Psalm 118:22
6.Messiah would be betrayed by one of his followers—Psalm 41:9
7.Messiah was to be tried and condemned — Isaiah 53:8
8. Messiah was to be silent before his accusers —Isaiah 53:7
9.Messiah was to be struck and spat on — Isaiah 50:6
10. Messiah was to be mocked and insulted — Psalm 22:7,8
11. Messiah was to die by crucifixion — Psalm 22:14, 16,17
12. Messiah was to suffer with criminals and pray for his enemies — Isaiah 53:12
13. Messiah was to be given vinegar and gall — Psalm 69:21
14. Others were to cast lots of Messiah’s garment— Psalm 22:18
15. Messiah’s bones were not to be broken — Exodus 12:46
16. Messiah was to die as a sacrifice for sin — Isaiah 53: 5,6,8,10,11,12
17. Messiah was to be raised from the dead — Psalm 16:10
18. Messiah is now at God’s right Han — Psalm 110:1

Now, you can choose to be like poor Bill O’Reilly and cherry-pick which prophecies or verses suit your beliefs and which don’t, if you want. I believe that these have been fulfilled...all of them. If one is fulfilled, then they all are. (I believe I have correctly typed the verse references, if there are mistakes, they are typo’s)


347 posted on 04/19/2014 3:37:02 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: prairiebreeze

Thanks for that list.


349 posted on 04/19/2014 3:40:17 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: prairiebreeze
Now, you can choose to be like poor Bill O’Reilly and cherry-pick which prophecies or verses suit your beliefs and which don’t, if you want.

I'm not trying to tell you what MY beliefs are, I'm trying to help us all reconstruct what a Jew in Jerusalem under Roman rule just before Jesus' time would believe. Do you understand? Let's look through this list.

1. Messiah was to be born in Bethlehem —Micah 5?2 (Yes, a Jew of that era would recognize this as a sure sign of the Messiah.)

2. Messiah was to be born of a virgin — Isaiah 7:14(No. A Jew of this time would read that as the sign that a certain battle would be won. If you read the whole chapter, it's a sign about a certain situation, not about Messiah.)

3.Messiah was to be a prophet like Moses— Deut 18:15,18,19(No, this would have been seen as merely instructions on how to recognize a prophet. If you look at the last verse, 22, it says that if the prophet's words come true, then he's real. Not about the Messiah.)

4. Messiah was to enter Jerusalem in triumph — Zech 9:9(Yes, this one looks good. Especially as two verses before it, it says that he will be governor, and two verses after it suggests he will negotiate peace treaties with "heathens."

5. Messiah was to be rejected by His own people — Isaiah 53:1,3, Psalm 118:22(No, Isaiah is God's description of how Zion would be treated by other nations. Read Chapters 52-53 all together.)

6.Messiah would be betrayed by one of his followers—Psalm 41:9(No. This is just a prayer for when you're feeling low.)

7.Messiah was to be tried and condemned — Isaiah 53:8 8. Messiah was to be silent before his accusers —Isaiah 53:7 9.Messiah was to be struck and spat on — Isaiah 50:6 (See #5)

10. Messiah was to be mocked and insulted — Psalm 22:7,8 11. Messiah was to die by crucifixion — Psalm 22:14, 16,17(No, again, just a song or prayer for general unhappiness. Not a prophecy.)

12. Messiah was to suffer with criminals and pray for his enemies — Isaiah 53:12(See #5)

13. Messiah was to be given vinegar and gall — Psalm 69:21 14. Others were to cast lots of Messiah’s garment— Psalm 22:18(No, the Psalms were not seen as prophecies at the time, just songs or poems written about misfortunes and heartbreak in general.)

15. Messiah’s bones were not to be broken — Exodus 12:46(No, these are rules for their new nation.)

16. Messiah was to die as a sacrifice for sin — Isaiah 53: 5,6,8,10,11,12 (See #5)

17. Messiah was to be raised from the dead — Psalm 16:10(No, this is just a list of the things they believed God had promised them.)

18. Messiah is now at God’s right Han — Psalm 110:1(Kind of. They believed that Israel's king would be blessed.)

Again, I am not trying to choose which ones WERE fulfilled. I'm trying to ascertain which ones the Jews of Jesus' day would have interpreted the same way you are. Do you understand?

403 posted on 04/20/2014 10:34:33 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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