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To: SouthernClaire
Okay, I looked up the first few and I think you are mistaken.

Gen. 3:15; And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (What does this have to do with a Messiah?)

Num. 24:17), He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted. (If you go back 2 verses and read, it seems to be about Jacob, not the Messiah.)

(Ps. 40; ) This is a Psalm of David talking about God, there is no mention of a Messiah. In fact, it says a sacrifice is not necessary, in verse 6.

Is. 35:5-7, Chapters 34 and 35 seem to be about God wreaking vengeance upon any nations that attack Zion and promising to bring them back to safety. There’s nothing about a Messiah, this is just God promising himself to do these things. And he hasn't done it yet, unless you count the Israelis kicking butt in the 7 Days War.

Is. 42:1-12, He’s talking about Israel itself. Look at 41:8, it says “But thou, Israel, art my servant” and all the rest is about the example the Jewish people are to set for non-Jews. God promises to shower blessings on them if they live righteously and set an example for Gentiles. In fact, Isaiah 42:2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street... definitely not talking about the Messiah, because causing his voice to be heard in the streets was what Jesus was doing the whole time.

I’ll have to pause here, I’m going out in a bit. But so far, nothing you’ve linked says anything about a Messiah. It’s just promises of God to Israel, or warnings of God to Israel, but there’s nothing that suggests an intermediary of any kind will be used.

What I’m talking about are verses that very specifically predict and describe a MESSIAH. Like the ones I posted in #295, 297, 298…

Jeremiah 33:15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. 16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely:

(Messiah will be descended from David and will keep Jerusalem safe.)

Micah 2:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. 3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel. 4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the Lord, in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth. 5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men. 6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

(Messiah will be born in Bethlehem and guard them from the Assyrians and other invaders.)

Isaiah 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: .the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever.

(Messiah will actually establish a government and rule.) Specific stuff about the MESSIAH, not God’s general promises about what He himself will do. Specific ways to identify the Messiah.

318 posted on 04/19/2014 8:37:18 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

This is as good a place to start as any: “Gen. 3:15; And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (What does this have to do with a Messiah?)”

What’s the apparent problem with the passage?

Actually, why not start at Genesis 1:1 until you reach 3:15?


323 posted on 04/19/2014 9:43:44 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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