Posted on 04/16/2014 6:53:25 AM PDT by No One Special
From the details I have heard, there is a possibility that Justina is the victim of Munchauser’s syndrome by proxy.
I agree, there is a lot of the story we have not heard.
Justina needs to own BCH once this is over.
I hate seeing “discrete” used for “discreet”. Happens a lot.
So did Shakespeare:
http://www.shakespeareswords.com/Plays.aspx?Ac=3&SC=2&IdPlay=38#254758
Google gives up early on that one:
Did you mean: It shall be very gud, gud feith, gud captains
bath: and I sall quit you with gud leve, as I may pick occasion;
that sall I, marry.
A good mnemonic is "'Loose shoes'; lose job".
If that’s the case then it sure is a funny coinkydink she got worse as soon as she was pulled off her meds and taken away from her parents, when one would expect her to get better, isn’t it?
That mnemonic is a good one and should be helpful to those confused by the two words. My approach to good spelling is different: I simply read published authors and in the process I pay close attention to the spelling of words in context, and then I memorize that spelling.
I don't think about spelling. Either the shapes of words look right, or they don't. If they don't, then I have to change the letters until they do.
Not really. Children who are the victims of abuse, including Munchauser’s syndrome by proxy, learn to behave in the way their parents have conditioned them.
Furthermore, we have only ever heard one side of the story, that of her parents. Something is going on here, but we don’t know the full truth.
Many very intelligent folks are poor spelers.
No one notices if I misspell a word when I am talking...
 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, ' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'
'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.' |
I KNOW I have trouble with it, and I always try to check the I before E thing.
True dat!
The “I” before “E” thing isn’t correct.
Examples-—”weird” and “seize”.
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It doesn’t fit the pattern of M.B. P because there are 2 other healthy kids and you usually don’t see both parents with MBP, just the moms.
A father who is unaware of the mother’s MBP and who supports his wife could very well be an unwitting participant in this particular kind of abuse.
Also, I saw some mention of an older sister who supposedly has a mitochondrial disorder—so there is some evidence that another child has been affected.
I would also expect that as the mother’s psychiatric disorder progresses, its manifestation would become more severe and sophisticated. Thus, the older child might have received a diagnosis of mitochondrial disorder after many visits to many doctors, and the mother would have used that experience to refine her technique on the younger child.
Please note that I am only saying that Munchausen’s is a distinct possibility here, not that it is a definitive explanation of what is going on. We do not have the full facts here and have no clear basis on which to determine what is really going on.
In most Munchausens by proxy cases by and large, when the parent is closely watched, the parent is found to be deliberately poisoning or doing things physically that cause the child to be sick. A mitochondrial disease can be shown via lab tests. If the child is shown to be physically worsening under the state’s care, it may be that the state is actually in error.
As I understand it, Justina has never been confirmed through testing to have a mitochondrial disorder. From everything I have read, there are no real definitive tests for mitochondrial disorders.
One of the things that I have read about Munchausen’s is that the affected parent often homes in on a disease whose symptoms are vague, and which cannot be definitively ruled in or out by testing.
The bottom line is that we do not know enough about this case (having only heard one side of the story) to know whether Justina is genuinely ill, or if she has been made ill through the actions of her mother.
No direct definitive tests...but there are tests for anti mitochondrial antibody and the like. The previous treatments seem to have helped her n the past to keep her weight and function before the state took them away. The state seems to be going with a “if we isolate the girl from bad parents, her natural survival instincts will take over and she’ll tire of the whole psych thingy and she get better on her own” strategy. It doesn’t seem to be working. I don’t think she’s faking it.
If the girl has a somatoform illness, it may be specific to the girl and is nothing the parents are doing.
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