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To: BigEdLB
I heard the Tortoises eat cow poop. I think there may be circumstantial evidence of this in the article...

I would imagine it is because the cattle are grazing down the grassy fodder causes it to refresh itself more often, thereby increasing the amount of food for the tortoise. And since a significant amount of undigested fiber is in the cow poop your theory may also play a big part in the equation.

It would be interesting to see if there are any records of the number of bison grazing in that area. If there was a significant number that would be the predecessor to the cattle and your idea might be correct.

8 posted on 04/15/2014 2:56:13 PM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: ProudFossil

Actually the main diet of Tortoise in animal dung. The Tortoise gets it water from the dung as dung is 80+ percent water.


16 posted on 04/15/2014 3:16:28 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: ProudFossil
The historic bison range didn't really extend that far southwest.

(click on pick to see map at source)

More detailed maps on Wiki here)

“The most complete data is from the Beaver Dam Mountains. Woodbury and Hardy reported a tortoise population density of 150 per square mile in 1948. BLM reduced cattle grazing a few years later and eliminated cattle in 1970. Coombs reported a tortoise density of 39 per square mile in 1974. In these 26 years cattle use was reduced 100 percent and tortoise numbers were reduced 74 percent.

“These tortoises were doing so poorly a veterinarian, Dr. Jarchow, was consulted. He reported all six specimens were suffering from osteoporosis caused by a protein deficiency in their diet. Dr. Jarchow examined five specimens from the same mountains that shared their range with cattle. He reported these specimens were all healthy and well nourished.

“The historical record proves conclusively that tortoise thrive when cattle are on the range with them and without cattle grazing they are always malnourished and unhealthy and their numbers plummet.

http://www.vinsuprynowicz.com/?p=80

But we have no idea what the population density of Desert Tortoises was before there was cattle grazing there. No one ever did a survey AFAIK. Was it 150 per sq mile as it was in 1948 or a higher or lower figure? Unless some early botanist did a well-studied survey we will probably never know. We do know that the BLM is intentionally killing several hundred of them that they failed to care for properly on their own reserve.

35 posted on 04/16/2014 1:35:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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