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Nevada Showdown: All Hat, No Cattle (Hurl Alert applicable?)
Townhall.com ^ | April 15, 2014 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 04/15/2014 7:42:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: ridesthemiles
Don’t know if you are seeing stories in your area, but the IRS is taking peoples refunds on this years taxes to pay for ‘what their parents owe the government’ from years past.

How the hell can the IRS do that? I didn't agree to pay ANYTHING, maybe my parents did, but I didn't sign on any dotted line about agreeing to pay my parents old debts!

That is one of the things that made America so different from other countries around the world! In other countries, you were relegated to a life of debt and poverty, because your mom or dad or sometimes even grandparents and great-grandparents were in so much debt that your family lineage had to repay said debt before you could actually make money on your own. But not here! Not in America!

This is more redistribution of wealth crap under Obama and it has to stop before it becomes a serious precedent! Congress is supposed to control 90% of these things, but they have given away 99% of that control to the Executive branch by creating all these bureaucracies and agencies which are controlled by the Executive branch!

We need a serious house cleaning and a departure from all of the alphabet groups and make Congress do their damn jobs! If they were doing their jobs instead of creating an agency to handle them for Congress, do you think Congress would have time to have hearings on steroids in baseball? Or grill CEO's on how a company spends their profits? It is BEYOND ridiculous at this point!
41 posted on 04/15/2014 9:03:29 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Mr Rogers
Bundy's only argument, and it is a strong one, is that the federal government arbitrarily changed the rules on him after decades of consistent application.

The state of Nevada can probably sue the BLM on some ground of tortious interference I would guess.

42 posted on 04/15/2014 9:03:47 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Balata

Well, maybe not. The feds are acting in accordance with nearly half of this country, and maybe more, to take and redistribute. It is one helluva sad representation.


43 posted on 04/15/2014 9:04:32 AM PDT by SgtHooper
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To: ridesthemiles

Do you have sources for this?


44 posted on 04/15/2014 9:04:35 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: ridesthemiles
Found one.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/social-security-treasury-target-hundreds-of-thousands-of-taxpayers-for-parents-old-debts/2014/04/10/74ac8eae-bf4d-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html?hpid=z1

45 posted on 04/15/2014 9:06:14 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake; sodpoodle
Federal Land History:

Federal Land Ownership

Federal Land Constitutional Authority and Management

46 posted on 04/15/2014 9:08:27 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: ExTxMarine

Apparently, the Farm Bill had such language in it...

Imagine—going after WORKING Americans for their parents ‘debts’ —not proven—and using that money to pay for more people on welfare & food stamps. Foodstamps originate in the Farm Bills.

Most people would not have any records from years past involveing the last days/months/years of their parents. I sure would demand a complete accounting of how they arrived at such a seizure of any of my money.


47 posted on 04/15/2014 9:14:47 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

PS:

The BLM charges for every competitor that enters those events they are now denying!! Charges range from $3.50 per person to $5.00 per person. They are denying income to themselves!!! Can any of these persons pass a 5t1-50 test???

PPS: Yes, I AM PISSED!!!


48 posted on 04/15/2014 9:16:47 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: MrB; All

The last line of “Checks and Balances” defense for “We, the People” was the Republican Leadership in the US House of Representatives until late 2014.

When Reid and Obama shut down part of the US Federal Government last Autumn, that same Republican Leadership in the US House caved in to “Stonewall” Reid, and “No Negotiation” Obama, leaving “We, the People” with no Federal protection from the well documented, arrogant tyranny of the Obama Administration, and the Godless Democrat Party.

Now “We, the People” are given a rare gifted opportunity to change our failed Republican Leadership in the US House and Senate, as we stand witness to the tyrannical brute force of the most powerful Nation that the World has ever known being leveled against an aged and last Rancher in Clark County, Nevada.

Our patience with the cowardly Republican Members in the US House of Representatives is nearly gone, as we wait with dimming hope for them to quickly replace Boehner, McCarthy, Cantor, Issa, Rogers, King of NY, and Ryan with fire-in-the-belly Leaders such as Trey Gowdy, Wilson of SC, and Gomert of TEXAS.

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The BFLM is currently a more accurate abbreviation of the BLM.

The BFLM is the abbreviation for the Bureau of FEUDAL Land Management.

Feudalism is what Europe was based on, and if it was good enough for Europe, then it is good enough for America!

Currently, the purpose of the BFLM is to provide land, free of charge, to the Commune-organized Obamanation to do with as the ruling Senate and Administration Feudal Lord Democrats see fit.

Predictions are that the cave-in Doormat Republican Leaders will, as usual, just huff and puff on TV, as required by the 2 year Congressional “No Fight Deal” that Ryan, Pelosi, Reid and Obama have forced them to sign.

Obama now knows in his smug arrogance that his “Obamanation Transformation of the United States of America” will continue unchallenged as long as Boehner and McConnell are kept in power as leaders in Congress.

“All ye lowly, collateral-damaged, Feudal Serfs bow to thine arrogant Feudal Democrat Lords!”

FORWARD!


49 posted on 04/15/2014 9:16:50 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Kaslin

The voters that sent Reid to D.C. are mostly from the shady side of citizenship including illegal immigrants and their enablers.


50 posted on 04/15/2014 9:18:37 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: wideawake

Local news past few days. Apparently, as people are getting —or NOT getting —their refunds, they are being blindsided.

Some are getting a ‘letter’, but I get the impression that the details are lacking. As a life-long bookkeeper, I would be screaming my head off. One of my parents died in 1964. The other in 1980. Now, I am retired, and I would be burning down the IRS buildings if they tried to reduce my Social Sec over this.

My mother didn’t live long enough to collect any Soc Sec, and my Dad was only getting $252 a month when he died in Dec 19802. I had been supporting alot of his life for the prior 8 years. I even paid the entire bill for his funeral—& I have 3 brothers.


51 posted on 04/15/2014 9:26:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SgtHooper

With the election Fraud it for sure isn’t an honest representation.


52 posted on 04/15/2014 9:27:28 AM PDT by Balata (Obama is a Lying Fraud, and so are his followers!)
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To: Graewoulf

The entrenched GOP is certainly quiet about this issue with Bundy.....and they are targeting the Tea Party.

How many voters will vote for Tea Party candidates before Nov elections are over?

I have been a registered Republican all of my life & I am now 74. I will not vote for a GOP establishment member if I have a Tea Party candidate available to me instead.


53 posted on 04/15/2014 9:29:26 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: wideawake

I see/hear what you are saying and tend to believe there is something(s) Bundy seems to be missing or ignoring. On the other hand there are somethings that Bundy speaks to that need to be seriously taken. For example, I believe we now know why those thousands of rounds of ammo were bought by the Feds ‘civilian’ BLM department. We now know the Feds are willing to repeat such incidents as Ruby Ridge and Branch Davidians to show the USA how strong government can be to ‘protect’ our safety and culture. Put these alongside the many khaki clothed, helmet heads, the deployed marksman to assure the few bad guys do not come out alive, and the available backup of tanks and flamethrowers to erase any visible remains, and you can see the conscience of our today’s government is not changed. Out of all this I would like to have all those jackbooted ‘American’ sunshine warriors on public display like they would have the likes of the Bundys.


54 posted on 04/15/2014 9:43:47 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: wideawake
Again: he had an understanding with the federal government to use our land.

Nope. He never signed a contract with them.

It is posted quite often that the contract included specific abuses of power such as his being forced to limit the size of his herd.

55 posted on 04/15/2014 9:56:51 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: wideawake
Mr. Bundy doesn't actually have a right to graze his cattle for free on our land.

Nevada is an open range state and the law is unclear about this, but there have been cases where grandfathering in is accepted by the courts. In the last 20 years I believe.

When the feds come and tell you how to maintain your home I hope you step up and obey.

56 posted on 04/15/2014 9:59:02 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: wideawake

http://www.teapartymedia.net/20130721/Pages%20from%20ProgressiveRancher_April2013w.pdf%20-%20Adobe%20Acrobat%20Professional.pdf


57 posted on 04/15/2014 10:00:01 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: absalom01
Bundy’s situation is not dissimilar from those living in anti-gun states who all of a sudden find themselves owning “illegal assault rifles”. The people didn’t change, but our ruling elites managed to change the rules to make a few million instant felons.

Post of the day and it is only 10 am here. Thank you so much.

58 posted on 04/15/2014 10:01:46 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: MarMema

I never said he had a a contract. I said he had an understanding. Big difference.


59 posted on 04/15/2014 10:10:28 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: MarMema
When the feds come and tell you how to maintain your home I hope you step up and obey.

You really don't understand the difference between owning a home and using someone else's land to graze your livestock?

60 posted on 04/15/2014 10:11:46 AM PDT by wideawake
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