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“All you property are belong to us now.”
According to his family contracts from the 1800’s, it is NEVADA property.
....We’re talking about the territory of Nevada. People of the territory of Nevada. As they — they do not have the Constitution. They’re within the territory and Congress had an unlimited power to make all the rules and regulations. Okay. The people of the territory petitioned the United States Congress to make this a state. And they have a clouded title. So in order to clear their title, they give up their public domain — forever. It sounds terrible. Forever? But let me tell what you they had to do. They had to give it up forever so Congress would have a clear title. And what did Congress do? It made a state of Nevada....
....Based on the conversation on the radio show, Bundy’s fundamental issue isn’t with an out of control government taking control of his personal land, but that he disagrees with how that land became federal land when Nevada was founded in 1864.
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Bundy is being his own worst enemy. He is grazing his cattle on United States Property, but the grazing and land managment laws are actually on his side and the BLM is improperly jacking up his fees and restricting his herds using the Desert Tortoise as a weapon against him.
He needs to get a lawyer and quit making dumb statements on television.
Why should this producer pay anything to the feds after we paid the feds hundreds of billion to protect our sovereignty and borders, all while they aided and abetted tens of millions from Mexico to trespass on our lands?
Then the feds turn around and force us all to pay literally hundreds of billions more ANNUALLY to support them, feed them, house them, educate and hospitalize them?
Why are we paying hundreds of billions in taxes and fees annually for millions of illegal trespassers?
Why are we paying hundreds of billions in taxes and fees annually for millions of illegal trespassers?
Why are we paying hundreds of billions in taxes and fees annually for millions of illegal trespassers?
Old Stinkface Harry is determined to get his way.
It does not.
He should probably quit with the strange legal theories and stick to the facts of the case: he was using federal land and abiding by the rules until the federal government changed the rules on him.
This posse comitatus kind of rhetoric is really unsound.
A better question is: why is the federal government continuing to hold onto so much land after more than 150 years? Why is it not sold at a market price to people like Mr. Bundy who are making good use of it?
“After the 1934 act they continued to pay grazing fees and make improvements up until the 1990’s.
Somewhere along the way the Bureau of Land Management was created. I don’t know what year.
Around 1990 or so they told him that he could no longer graze more than 150 of his 600 or so head of cattle there.
He told them to pound sand and kept paying his fees and grazing his cattle.
Around 1994 they told him he could only graze them in the summer, fall and winter and said it was so that the cattle didn’t disturb the Desert Tortoise. (more on that later)
He told them that they were HIRED by the Taylor Grazing act to MANAGE the land for the ranchers. So he FIRED them and started paying his fees to to the state of Nevada. Soon they didn’t know where to put it so they quit taking payments.
Meanwhile they came at him from another angle. When they saw they weren’t going to be able to force him off the land the BLM SOLD the rights to the land to the state of Nevada under the condition that the state RETIRE the grazing rights permanently. Nevada legislators, being idiots, did their bidding. That was around 1996 or so.
But the state left him alone and let him forage all those years.
A few years ago, due to Agenda 21, Ranchers around the nation were being shut down and either bought out (with a program that paid them a lump sum of YOUR taxpayer funds in exchange for quitting ranching.
A lot of them did. The program was touted as “optional” but they intimidated the ranchers with lawsuits ranging from environmental concerns to water concerns to endangered species.
Before all this there were 50 ranchers in Clark County Nevada. Now there is one. Cliven Bundy.”
The fact the BLM tried to impair the obligation of this contract by stepping in the middle and demanding payment for the land based on a contract it was NOT a party to, is, itself, Unconstitutional.
Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1:
.......or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts
Bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligation of contracts, are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation.
James Madison, Federalist #44
Let me see if I have my facts straight:
1. BLM got this land to preserve and protect it for we, the people.
2. BLM is selling OUR land to the Chinese Communists to build a solar farm and a manufacturing plant.
3. Harry Reid and his son stand to make millions.
4. BLM wants the grazing to stop to protect the desert tortoise.
5. Grazing improves the habitat for the desert tortoise. So much, that the BLM is shooting the tortoises.
6. This ain’t over, folks. And it’s not going to end pretty.
Is that about it?
“Let’s make sure we get this straight. I would pay my grazing fees to the proper government and I did try to pay my grazing fees to the proper government. I do not have a contract with the United States because I will not sign that contract with the United States,” Bundy explained. “I have no contract. I did not graze my cattle on the United States property. And I would pay my grazing fees to the proper government.”This one sentence tells it all: he's a "freeman on the land" sovereign citizen type. He does not recognize the Constitution of the United States. He doesn't recognize the federal government. He thinks he has to have a "contract" before paying for grazing fees on federal land, which is patent nonsense.
“A secret administration memo has surfaced revealing plans for the federal government to seize more than 10 million acres from Montana to New Mexico, halting job- creating activities like ranching, forestry, mining and energy development. Worse, this land grab would dry up tax revenue that’s essential for funding schools, firehouses and community centers.
President Obama could enact the plans in this memo with just the stroke of a pen, without any input from the communities affected by it.”
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