Ukraine leaders says Kiev 'not against' referendum

Reuters via Yahoo! ^

[wetphoenix]

KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine's interim president said on Monday that the Kiev leadership was "not against" a referendum being held on the type of state Ukraine should be and added he was sure it would confirm the wish of the majority for a united, independent country.

The holding of a referendum has been one of the demands of separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine.

Oleksander Turchinov, in televised remarks to a parliamentary committee, added that such a poll could be held at the same time as a presidential election on May 25.

He added that an anti-terrorist operation involving the army would begin in eastern Ukraine, unless rebels laid down their arms, and that the Donbass region "will soon be stabilized".

[Count of Monte Fisto]

shadowy NWO organization which plans to bring globalism

The Globalists aren't in the shadows and are very open about their goals. The write books bragging about it. Try reading The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Read about Agenda 21.

But I just wanted to understand where you are coming from. You are saying that its quite believable if Putin attempts to interfere in Ukraine but if someone suggests that the Soviet EU, George Soros, and Uncle Scam is involved then its a wild conspiracy theory.

[Corporate Democrat]

For one thing, I know that Putin has a clear and obvious motive to cause separatist pro-Russian insurrection in Ukraine. Also, he is acting alone instead of in concert, with the same modus operandi as he actually did use in Crimea.

I don’t see that clear and obvious motive for all these myriad organizations to work together like this in destabilizing Ukraine and installing neo-Nazis. For some fuzzy plan to advance globalism and world tyranny?

Much less clear, and built on a mountain of assumptions unlike the motive of a nationalist Putin.

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

[Count of Monte Fisto]

For some fuzzy plan to advance globalism and world tyranny?

Its not a fuzzy plan just one that you are painfully and naively unaware of. And this myriad of organizations have worked closely together for years and have pulled the same stunt in a host of other countries. Look up the Color Revolution and the IMF Riot.

The prize in Ukraine is hundreds of billions in new debt, the breadbasket of Europe, gas pipelines, natural resources, and a geo-strategic advantage against nationalist Russia (The Globalists hate nationalists). It was all laid out in the Grand Chessboard.

Remember that whole crisis blew up when Yanukovych rejected the Soviet EU and the Globalist backed insurrections firebombed the legitimate government out of power. Putin responded to that. And he didn't respond by sulking in a corner.

[Corporate Democrat]

Oh, I’m aware and I’ve looked into it. The problem is that it seems most of the conspiracies you push fail Occam’s Razor spectacularly.

I have yet to see compelling evidence to substantiate the massive assumptions behind the conspiracy viewpoint.

And no, a few pictures and the fact that Soros NGOs operate in the country is not compelling evidence. A book by some Carter adviser or because Woodrow Wilson said the words ‘NWO’, reflect only the opinions of those people.

That Putin would like Eastern Ukraine to secede and join Russia is not disputed by anybody, not even Putin.

The assumption that the NWO exists, and the assumption that the NWO is also actively instigating revolution as part of a nefarious agenda needs some real evidence behind it.