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Federal agency vows to continue legal action after ending Nevada ranch standoff [BLM v Bundy]
FOX News ^ | April 13, 2014 | Edmund DeMarche, Matt Finn and the AP contributed to this report

Posted on 04/13/2014 2:17:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: 12th_Monkey

You are missing a lot-—start with 44 above.


101 posted on 04/13/2014 12:04:43 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yes I do see the difference, however WHEN do these folks EVER get
TRUE value from the FEDS!!!!!! This rancher wants to hand down his
hard work and ranch to his family the FEDS will NEVER let this happen!!!


102 posted on 04/13/2014 12:05:02 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Friday night on Hannity Niger Innis brought this up on Shaun’s show,
Shaun is going to be reporting on this Monday, he was still gathering all
facts Friday but was aware of the situation!!!!!


103 posted on 04/13/2014 12:08:37 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Mr Rogers

There are a few new legalities that have come up during this chaos. Another rancher’s cattle were found during the gather...grazing in the same area without a lease. I haven’t seen anything about that rancher being in trouble with the government. Selective enforcement? There is also issue with Nevada being an open range state meaning if the government did not have the cows fenced out by state law it was might be legal for them to be there. The first confrontation when the son was arrested...was he just trying to video what was happening? The amount of force and different things the feds did- violation of rights issues? I have seen where people say the land in question was set aside by congress for grazing. If it is now being converted to other use is that legal? The government has been taking away grazing areas all over the West for many years so this could be a big issue. The list goes on and on with legal issues other than the ones that brought Bundy to this point. This will likely be in court forever on one issue or another. Field day for lawyers looks to me like.


104 posted on 04/13/2014 12:12:36 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: centurion316
I don't know that the BLM raised the fees, but what they did do was limit the number of cows grazed on that allotment to 150. That is not enough cattle to sustain a cattle ranching operation. That's barely a hobby farm.

It is my understanding that Bundy's land consists of 160 acres. If that is true, then that is the same amount of land that was allowed when land was granted in the 1800s. As other FReepers here have pointed out, in the Nevada desert environment, 160 acres is not even enough land to sustain one cow for an entire year, much less a herd. Talk about doing damage to the environment! Putting that many cattle in such a small space would destroy it. That is why these grazing lands were established in the first place. Everyone keeps saying, "He should have kept the herd on his own property!" In that case, there would not be a single rancher left in the entire state of Nevada because they've not been able to buy up that much land - the state owns it! Over the years, the Fed has moved in, claimed ownership and gradually made all these ranchers trespassers.

I expect the administration to go balls-to-the-wall with the media and all online news site, commenters, even here on FR to paint Bundy as a psycho, "tea bagging" nut job. (This is already in progress.) Once they drive this meme hard enough to turn the LoFo Voters against Bundy, then they will move in to try and finish him. It's up to all of us to get the word out. Hit your social media. Hit all the news sites. Get your message straight and be clear. Don't engage in tit-for-tat with the idiots out there whose purpose is to drive us off message.

105 posted on 04/13/2014 12:16:05 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

Bundy will be the new Emmanuel Goldstein.


106 posted on 04/13/2014 12:16:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ought-six

This all boils down to people who do not want a government of the Founders but a government of the opposite. Recall that it was Obama who said that ‘change’ was needed for his intentions. It seems the Mexicans of years past might just have pulled the wool over the eyes of USA government years ago.


107 posted on 04/13/2014 12:22:11 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: ponygirl

Good points. The federal government has always owned the land. What has changed is how it has been manage and that process has become very anti-rancher.


108 posted on 04/13/2014 12:29:34 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Born to Conserve
I suppose anyone with any sense is out squatting on federal land right now. Nothing like getting free stuff.

And what exactly is Harry Reid doing here? He is using the power of his office to declare previously public lands as off-limits. He then transitions those lands into federal domain and arranges deals with cronies to sell them off and receive a portion of the land sales. Talking about getting land for free and then profiting off it!

109 posted on 04/13/2014 12:34:42 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: centurion316
Another thing I would like to point out is how all the city dwellers/soccer moms/yuppies and hippies (who aren't vegans) are all into the latest health craze: GRASS FED. Whether it's beef, chicken, pork, whatever. It must be Grass Fed/Organic. Well, grass fed beef requires land and grass. If you keep them corralled in small areas and feed them grain, that requires antibiotics in such small, crowded conditions.

So they can't have it both ways. Either have healthy cattle with plenty of room to roam, or have penned in cattle fed on GMO grain and antibiotics. And farting methane.

110 posted on 04/13/2014 12:49:14 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Kit cat

Yep. You see it alright. They don’t want anybody to hand anything down to their families. Inheritance is seen by liberals as the worst thing in the world, even worse than income inequality. They favor a 100% tax on inheritance.


111 posted on 04/13/2014 12:51:34 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Jim Robinson
Federal agency vows to continue legal action...

I am good, Monsieur, but not even I can pretend to be shocked.

112 posted on 04/13/2014 12:52:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: ponygirl

What you are suggesting is only a half-way measure to leftists. They don’t want people eating any kind of meat at all.


113 posted on 04/13/2014 12:54:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: ponygirl

Yep. Start ‘em on Texas scrub, finish ‘em in the Spring on Kansas Flint Hills high protein grass, then eat ‘em. Yum, yum. At least that’s how we do it out here.


114 posted on 04/13/2014 1:06:08 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Cyber Liberty
What you are suggesting is only a half-way measure to leftists. They don’t want people eating any kind of meat at all.

In yet another ploy to keep the American people weak, anemic, starving and easily controlled.

Steak is good.

115 posted on 04/13/2014 2:05:11 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Jim Robinson
It seems to me that if Mr Bundy was paying the county in error, the gov should approach the county for the revenue.

Or, perhaps they have other reasons for the action.

I think we all know what the answer to that is.

116 posted on 04/13/2014 2:20:58 PM PDT by Know et al (Noone has ever choked to death on a raw oyster.)
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To: Know et al

It’s not about Bundy’s money. They want him OFF the land and out of the way.


117 posted on 04/13/2014 2:24:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If the BLM wants everyone to remain peaceful and law abiding then they should stop tasering people and knocking pregnant women to the ground.


118 posted on 04/13/2014 2:48:47 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: blueplum

If there are no dogs for the LEOs to kill, cows will do.


119 posted on 04/13/2014 2:51:57 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Kit cat

That’s good to know. Thanks.


120 posted on 04/13/2014 2:53:04 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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