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To: Kaslin

“Reander unto Caeser that which is Ceaser’s”

Point is Ceaser doesn’t earn my wage, I do, so it is mone, not his. So you own Ceaser NOTHING....


2 posted on 04/12/2014 11:51:40 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: stockpirate

The correct quote is: “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”


5 posted on 04/12/2014 12:01:23 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: stockpirate

God gives it to you


6 posted on 04/12/2014 12:01:39 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: stockpirate
Point is Ceaser doesn’t earn my wage, I do, so it is mone, not his. So you own Ceaser NOTHING....

And that wasn't also true in Jesus' day? There's another passage where Jesus tells Peter to pay a tax for the two of them. It would appear that Jesus didn't accept the premise that nothing was rightfully owed to the civil rulers, and neither do I.

12 posted on 04/12/2014 9:59:54 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: stockpirate; RansomOttawa; Nifster
Point is Ceaser doesn’t earn my wage, I do, so it is mone, not his. So you own Ceaser NOTHING....

It did not earn it when Christ said it either. But rather than anarchy, or the imaginary world some libertarians exist in, some government is needed, and taxes are needed to support such (unless they will serve without salary like the apostles) .

But government must itself be governed, and thus the Constitution, but which supposes a moral foundation which primarily if not directly flowed from the Scriptures.

Yet as the Constitution is interpretive to varying degrees, and as it is government by the people, then the people determine how that will be interpreted by whom the elect.

And when the people count the great things written in the Law of God to be a strange thing, then gov. will increase in size and scope, and they will set up princes but not after God.

For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: but by a man of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged. (Proverbs 28:2)

They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. (Hosea 8:4)

I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. (Hosea 8:12)

Robert Winthrop (May 12, 1809 – November 16, 1894), and Speaker of the House from 1838 to 1840, and later president of the Massachusetts Bible Society, explained that, “Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled, either by a power within them, or by a power without them; either by the Word of God, or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or the bayonet."

13 posted on 04/13/2014 6:45:08 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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