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After a bad call by the strike group commander, the aviator and his backseater ran out of fuel just as they were about to land on the Eisenhower and had to punch out, losing the aircraft.

Seems to me that the root of the original chain of bad decisions was the failure to station a Maintenance Det in Afghganistan to save money and to encourage aviators in trouble to try and make it back to their carriers. So, here they lost a $50 million Super Hornet and nearly their lives because of financial shenanigans in Washington.

1 posted on 04/12/2014 5:47:41 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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true..and afterall; this IS the Resident "Bathhouse" Barrack 0'Muslim Administration.

2 posted on 04/12/2014 5:57:58 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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Seems to me that our government’s main mission is to provide defense for our country. It follows that we should have people in place,from the Commander-in-Chief on down,with military experience. This is vital,but doesn’t seem to be the case this time.


3 posted on 04/12/2014 5:59:28 AM PDT by oldtech
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Two seat Hornet = Marines or a Growler. Carrier aviation is a high risk occupation. Running out of gas is always a pilot error.


4 posted on 04/12/2014 6:01:05 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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Why doesn’t our govt ever try to save money by, say, cutting handouts to the slimy takers of society - those born on BOTH sides of our southern border???


5 posted on 04/12/2014 6:03:42 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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“The jet had flown more than 400 miles, two-thirds of the way back to the ship, when the aviators noticed another problem.”

Glad their safe. I don’t blame it on anybody. I was a green shirt for a month ... not long by anybodies standard, but I don’t question their decision. If both made it back alive, then It was a good decision in my book.


6 posted on 04/12/2014 6:07:42 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Islamunism = Facism + Islam : Islamunist = someone that adheres to Islamunism.)
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I couldn’t read the rest of this. You’re spot on.

The incident could have resulted in loss of crew, all consequent to a major command error in logistics, which I can only assume extends all the way up the chain back to the Pentagon since they only assigned blame on the pilot. They simply chose to ignore the problem.

The proof is the lack of disciplinary action.

Why am I not surprised...

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9 posted on 04/12/2014 6:12:53 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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They should have the team, which is investigating MH370, solve the investigation...


18 posted on 04/12/2014 6:40:35 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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"....a $50 million Super Hornet and nearly their lives because of financial shenanigans in Washington."

See.......space shuttle......Challenger. Same deal.

25 posted on 04/12/2014 7:25:38 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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nearby Kandahar

I'm confused. If he was choosing between landing on a carrier, I would presume that meant he was over the ocean. Yet Kandahar is in land-locked Afghanistan, hundreds of miles from any sea. How could it be considered "nearby?"

28 posted on 04/12/2014 7:36:06 AM PDT by IronJack
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If a maverick black hole from the Andromeda galaxy sweeps out of the mysterious dark unknown of deepest space and into our Solar System, slamming unpredictably into this pale blue dot of Earth, in the moments before everyone is annihilated, one or more commanders will most likely be asked that most standard of military questions: “What did YOU do to prevent this?”


29 posted on 04/12/2014 7:42:32 AM PDT by Theophilus (.)
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The jet had flown more than 400 miles, two-thirds of the way back to the ship, when the aviators noticed another problem. The pumps that move fuel from reserve tanks on the wings into the main tanks are automatically disabled when the refueling probe is extended.

AKA an "aw crap" moment.

33 posted on 04/12/2014 8:04:03 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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I was in KAF in 2009 and we had a Hornet divert there with a malfunction. The USN didn’t have a maintenance detachment there at the time but a team was flown from the ship to fix the jet two days later. Not ideal but then again it was the smart play.


41 posted on 04/12/2014 10:10:23 AM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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Really if you think about is it was a really bad call

He’s near Kandahar when he had the refueling basket stuck on his refueling probe...

..so land...

...pull the dam basket off...

.... retract the probe....

....inspect the aircraft for damage....

...and if none....

....top up and fly home..

And if the aircraft is damaged landing at Kandahar still the better bet as its closer and it’s not the carrier...

Landing a damaged aircraft on a carrier, besides being harder, and puts the carrier and the people on the carrier at risk.

Landing a damaged aircraft on an airfield is easier ...and just put the freaking dirt at risk.


47 posted on 04/12/2014 10:57:55 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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I suspect that part of what led to this was a Navy mindset about the reach of carrier aviation. A war in a landlocked country hundreds of miles from the sea where we already controlled a number of airbases would not seem a logical choice for carrier operations, absent an agenda.


48 posted on 04/12/2014 10:58:30 AM PDT by Stingray51
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