Posted on 04/10/2014 9:16:00 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Possible missile cruiser could outweigh rival surface combatants
There is evidence that China is in the early stages of building a positively enormous missile cruiserone that could be bigger and potentially more powerful than any equivalent American or Japanese vessel.
On April 6, China Defense Blogan Internet forum for close observers of Chinese military developmentsrepublished a series of photographs that recently circulated on Chinas firewalled national Internet.
The photos, reportedly snapped at the Wuhan Technical College of Communication, depict what appears to be a mock-up of a large surface warshipthe kind of mock-up used for testing radars and other sensors. China Defense Blog described Wuhan as a military facility for crew training and electromagnetic interference testing.
China and other warship-building countries habitually experiment with land-based mock-ups before manufacturing actual seaworthy prototype vessels. As China renovated its former Soviet aircraft carrier Liaoning a few years ago, it built a mock-up at Wuhan. That massive shape is visible in at least one of the photos of the apparent new cruiser.
New cruiser at right, Liaoning mock-up at left. Photo via China Defense Blog China Defense Blog contributor Totoro analyzed the photos and estimated the cruisers dimensions. Totoro concluded that the vessel is up to 614 feet from bow to stern. That exceeds the U.S. Navys Arleigh Burke-class destroyers by 109 feet, Americas Ticonderoga-class cruisers by 47 feet, Japans Kongo-class destroyers by 18 feet and the U.S. Zumwalt-class ships by 14 feet.
At nearly 15,000 tons displacement, the still-under-construction Zumwalts are almost the biggest surface combatants in the world, outweighed only by Russias single huge Kirov-class nuclear cruiser. If its as big as it looksand actually enters servicethe new Chinese warship could become the worlds second-largest fighting vessel.
China Defense Blog also spotted a new radar that could be associated with the cruiser. That sensor and the ships size could indicate that its an air-defense vessel, meant to protect aircraft carriers, amphibious ships and other vulnerable ships from enemy warplanes and missiles.
If so, the apparent cruiser could pack a greater long-range missile armament than any other vessel. It would appear that theres more than enough space for 64 fore and 64 aft [missile] cells, Totoro asserted. Thats six more cells than on the Ticonderogas, currently the most heavily-armed long-range missile shooters in naval service anywhere.
Totoro art via China Defense Blog To be clear, a few grainy photos are not definitive proof of anything. But if the snapshots do indeed depict a new cruiser in development, it would make sense in light of Chinas military needs.
Beijing has struggled to build warships capable of defending against the overwhelming air and missile power of Japan and the United States. It wasnt until March this year that the Chinese navy commissioned its first warship in the same class as Americas 85 Burkes and Ticonderogas and Japans four Kongos and two related destroyers.
The Zumwalts have yet to join the U.S. fleet.
But the Type 052D destroyer that entered Chinese service in March displaces just 7,500 tons and packs 64 missile cells, making it a third smaller than Japanese and American vesselsand with a third fewer missiles.
A big new cruiser could begin to give China some of the same at-sea air-defense capacity that America and Japan have enjoyed for decades.
Chinese imports to America in 2013: 440 billion dollars.
American imports to China in 2013: 122 billion dollars.
China’s trade surplus: 318 billion dollars or so.
That is an amount, that can pay for a huge arsenal.
America really, really needs to bring back American industry.
Now.
As I’m sure you know, we no longer build cruisers.
The resurgence of cheap American energy will foster a resurgence of American industry.
O goody. Another target.
I've asked you before: how? Crickets.
I'll ask you again: how? The need is there but it's far more complicated than expressing an infantile demand. Give us the benefit of your wisdom.
Obama’s EPA and other regulatory agencies are working to screw that up.
Yep, big ship make big boom. Heap big ship sink fast. Big azzed ship make big thump when it hit bottom.
The answer is to cut taxes and regulations. Get the feds out of everything that was not originally their responsibility. Get rid of all 85,000 pages of the tax code and bring in general tax guidelines that everybody has to follow, written at a level that the average American can follow without having to consult with tax accountants and lawyers and set the federal tax rate at no more than 18%.
Do this and China is at a disadvantage, because it is the regulations more than the tax rate that has driven corporations overseas.
I have always thought that weaponry and electronics would eventually require a bigger platform. The DeMoines class ran about 18,000 tons and were extremely capable (8 inch automatic main battery) and cheaper to build and operate than battleships
I think we will get there sooner rather than later
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