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1 posted on 04/10/2014 11:32:08 AM PDT by xzins
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Big government and the little people


2 posted on 04/10/2014 11:32:56 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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May God bless and protect the Bundy family against their enemies; our government.


4 posted on 04/10/2014 11:35:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Uncle Sam will have his way.

Until somebody shoots him.

6 posted on 04/10/2014 11:37:24 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches.”

She certainly had that in the right order. Here in NJ we have to collect tolls just to pay toll collectors; it certainly isn’t being spent on maintenance.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 11:38:03 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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I thought it was odd that grazing cattle could harm a tortise.


9 posted on 04/10/2014 11:38:05 AM PDT by kidd
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I have to side with the ranchers on this. I think the eviro-nazis are behind this. They have a willing ally in Obama.


10 posted on 04/10/2014 11:38:42 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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Government is too big, too expensive, too intrusive.

This is NOT what our founding fathers intended. Shame on these agents...shame on every last one of’em.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 11:39:30 AM PDT by servantboy777
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Funny how the desert tortoise is still there after four generations of cattle grazing isn’t it? How did it ever survive without the FedMob?


12 posted on 04/10/2014 11:39:32 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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Clearly, the greatest political issue overshadowing all other political issues is the size of the unconstitutional $4 trillion federal government which threatens our freedoms, our livelihood, and our very existence and which needs to be cut by 80% (that leaves an $800 billion government, still too big, but its a start). The GOP also needs to go back to school and learn about the FREE MARKET ECONOMY which ran things very well for over a century around here. The free market economy IS THE ALTERNATIVE to Obamacare and big government. No other political issue comes close.
16 posted on 04/10/2014 11:41:42 AM PDT by PapaNew
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The federal cattle rustlers should be given a taste of prairie justice.


17 posted on 04/10/2014 11:41:54 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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I live in Las Vegas and will drive out to Bunkerville or the Bundy ranch Friday about 8:00AM. I’ve got room for three more. Any Las Vegas Freepers interested in going?


23 posted on 04/10/2014 11:48:58 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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It’s not his land. His cattle are grazing on federal land.

At the end of the Mexican-American War in 1848, Mexico and the U.S. signed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo which granted title to that land to the U.S., for which the U.S. paid Mexico $15 million.

Sixteen years later in 1864, Nevada became a state. A provision of the Nevada Statehood Act of 1864 promised that Nevada would disclaim all rights to the unappropriated public lands lying within its boundaries, and that such land would remain at the sole disposition of the United States.

Cliven Bundy has no legal right to graze his cattle on federal land without permission. When he stopped paying grazing fees, the federal government sold his grazing rights to the Clark County Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan.

In short, the U.S. bought and paid for that land. It owns it. It makes the rules on it. Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution specifically enumerates Congress the EXCLUSIVE legislative authority in all cases whatsoever. State law does not apply. County law does not apply. Cattle Barron law does not apply. Open range law does not apply. The ONLY law that does apply is US Federal law.


24 posted on 04/10/2014 11:49:40 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Art 1 Sec 8, 17th enumerated power;

17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings


25 posted on 04/10/2014 11:49:53 AM PDT by crz
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I wish Mark Levin would broadcast from the ranch....


27 posted on 04/10/2014 11:50:52 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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http://www.naturalnews.com/044670_BLM_lies_fracking_leases_Bundy_ranch.html#


28 posted on 04/10/2014 11:50:58 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Another case where the government is doing more harm than good. The case for ‘over grazing’ is dead wrong.

The worlds leading expert on desertification has come out and said that the belief the over grazing leads to desertification is backwords, it’s actually large herd grazing that stays off desertification, and can actually reverse it.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-livestock-grazing-stop-desertification/


31 posted on 04/10/2014 11:54:14 AM PDT by MMaschin
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My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there.

Who was selling permanent grazing rights to federal land in 1887, and doesn't that statement contradict Cliven Bundy's public statements and filed legal claims that the property belongs to the citizens of the State of Nevada?

Is there a legal document, which would be handy, given that Nevada is a 'color of title' state?

If the great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887, how does that address Cliven Bundy's grazing of cattle in the BLM's Gold Butte area, and the National Park Service's Lake Mead Recreational Area, as well as the Bunkerville allotmen area? When Bundy quit paying grazing fees in 1993, he was grazing cattle only on the Bunkerville allotment.

36 posted on 04/10/2014 12:00:01 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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Too bad we all can’t stop paying taxes, like gas taxes, when the money is no longer being used for its intended purpose. He is a taker that is using public resources without compensation for his personal economic benefit. They should have stopped him from doing this years ago.


54 posted on 04/10/2014 12:21:39 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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So this is her side of the story. The government has their side of the story. The actual truth is somewhere in between.


62 posted on 04/10/2014 12:27:33 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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She said it right!

The BLM has no claim whatsoever to those lands.
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77 posted on 04/10/2014 12:52:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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