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China Might Actually Seize Japan's Southern Islands
Foreign Policy ^ | 4/8/2014 | James Holmes

Posted on 04/09/2014 12:09:51 PM PDT by mojito

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To: mojito

And it would just have to be some miracle that the Chicoms would get some sealift capacity really quickly. The PLA is an internal-control army first and foremost. It might be a continental power somehow. But creating a real sea power takes time, resources and tons of experience and they just are not there yet.


21 posted on 04/09/2014 12:58:14 PM PDT by xvq2er
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To: mojito

go right ahead. no one will stop you..you”ll get an otay from oblowme


22 posted on 04/09/2014 1:08:50 PM PDT by nikotal09
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To: cuban leaf; LeoWindhorse

He’s at a gay pride parade and couldn’t be contacted.


23 posted on 04/09/2014 1:11:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Now would be a good time for Japan to light off a nuke just to show they can. (Yeah, I know about their constitution, but surely it’s a ‘living’ document too?)”
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Japan CURRENTLY has no nukes. However, they have the raw material, technical expertise and needed equipment that could be use to produce literally hundreds of nukes in short order. I’m surprised they haven’t taken that step given China’s recent belligerence toward Japan.


24 posted on 04/09/2014 1:23:50 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ryan71
Calling all dictators, communists and communist dictators, if you want to expand your borders, do it now.

They're being patient...they've got until Jan 2017 to accomplish their missions.

25 posted on 04/09/2014 1:46:36 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: mojito

Restore the import tariffs. Let China worry about how to feed it’s people instead of how to antagonize us.


26 posted on 04/09/2014 2:01:35 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: House Atreides

“Japan CURRENTLY has no nukes. However, they have the raw material, technical expertise and needed equipment that could be use to produce literally hundreds of nukes in short order. I’m surprised they haven’t taken that step given China’s recent belligerence toward Japan.”

My understanding of Japanese politics and public opinion is that letting anybody know they have them could potentially collapse the current regime. They have their own anti-Japanese defense group, probably similar to our anti-American power liberals.


27 posted on 04/09/2014 2:07:09 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: xvq2er

And it would just have to be some miracle that the Chicoms would get some sealift capacity really quickly.

The Chinese have the third largest merchant fleet on the planet, and it is growing quickly. The U.S. has the tenth largest, and it is declining.

This list is from 2008, and does not include Chinese-owned ships registered in other countries:
barge carrier 4,
bulk carrier 451,
cargo 689,
carrier 2,
chemical tanker 69,
combination ore/oil 1,
container 162,
liquefied gas 44,
passenger 8,
passenger/cargo 83,
petroleum tanker 244,
refrigerated cargo 33,
roll on/roll off 10,
specialized tanker 9,
vehicle carrier 17

They could do it, as long as they stay under land-based air cover. However, Okinawa wouldn’t ever be on that list, I think. Much more likely the Southern Ryuku’s, near Taiwan.


28 posted on 04/09/2014 2:23:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: DannyTN

“Restore the import tariffs.”

I REALLY dislike it when I see this.

Restoring Tarriffs, and destroying American’s standard of living, without addressing all of the reasons manufacturing fled America in the first place, is just mindless tripe.


29 posted on 04/09/2014 2:26:25 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: mojito

Really? Well the Chinese are in for it now...

Kerry won’t invite the them to any A-List parties from this point on... AND he’s going to give them the cold shoulder at the yacht club.

Kerry’s not putting up with their crap. We can all be proud.


30 posted on 04/09/2014 2:31:40 PM PDT by GOPJ (When fascism comes it will come..with promises of a better world.The jackboots come later..-Shapiro)
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To: mojito
"Will the ChiComs try something?"

Does the Yellow Sea get its color from the Yellow River?


31 posted on 04/09/2014 2:33:16 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: mojito

It’s long been regarded as common knowledge in China, that Japanese are Chinese.


32 posted on 04/09/2014 2:34:41 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: tcrlaf
"Restoring Tarriffs, and destroying American’s standard of living, without addressing all of the reasons manufacturing fled America in the first place, is just mindless tripe."

America did just fine when the tariffs were in place. Tariffs are what the founding fathers recommended. Tariffs are what Republicans used to support.

What is destroying American's standard of living is letting low wage, high excess labor countries like communist China compete against American manufacturers for the American consumer market. We don't even charge importers a tariff equal to the tax burden on domestic producers. So we've created tax incentives to off-shore.

The main reason manufacturing fled America is because we lowered the import tariffs, and suddenly they realized just how cheap labor was overseas. And since there was no barriers to ship the product back here, they off-shored. And then it became a race to the bottom. Even if you didn't want to off-shore, you better off-shore, because if you competition does it, they are going to be able to price compete you right out of business.

33 posted on 04/09/2014 2:42:58 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: tcrlaf
"Restoring Tarriffs, and destroying American’s standard of living, without addressing all of the reasons manufacturing fled America in the first place, is just mindless tripe."

America did just fine when the tariffs were in place. Tariffs are what the founding fathers recommended. Tariffs are what Republicans used to support.

What is destroying American's standard of living is letting low wage, high excess labor countries like communist China compete against American manufacturers for the American consumer market. We don't even charge importers a tariff equal to the tax burden on domestic producers. So we've created tax incentives to off-shore.

The main reason manufacturing fled America is because we lowered the import tariffs, and suddenly they realized just how cheap labor was overseas. And since there was no barriers to ship the product back here, they off-shored. And then it became a race to the bottom. Even if you didn't want to off-shore, you better off-shore, because if you competition does it, they are going to be able to price compete you right out of business.

34 posted on 04/09/2014 2:42:58 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

“we lowered the import tariffs, and suddenly they realized just how cheap labor was overseas.”

Over-Unionizatiom, Over-regulation, insane and ever-changing enviro rules, and Unlimited Civil Liabilty had nothing to do with it???


35 posted on 04/09/2014 2:51:01 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: mojito

If they do, this regime won’t do anything substantial to stop them.


36 posted on 04/09/2014 2:52:00 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: tcrlaf
"Over-Unionizatiom, Over-regulation, insane and ever-changing enviro rules, and Unlimited Civil Liabilty had nothing to do with it???"

Not really. You can do that stuff and it adds to the cost of a product. But as long as you have protective import tariffs, you're not likely to kill the industry.

Doing away with protective import tariffs when you are an advanced industrial nation is national suicide. Doing away with import tariffs, when you have a high regulatory burden, is faster suicide.

Free Trade Doesn't work: What should replace it and why"

37 posted on 04/09/2014 2:57:59 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Steel and coal began dying long before NAFTA, due to the Clean Air Act regulations. The examples of US Industries destroyed and forced overseas are too numerous to list at this point.

To think tariffs would solve that is just ....


38 posted on 04/09/2014 3:00:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: LeoWindhorse
He knows there are lines that simply cannot be crossed .

Wrong. The reason he won't cross that line isn't because of some moral or philosophical ideal, but because it would hurt him politically.

Make no mistake: this president and his administration would send every single last US soldier to their death if the prize was infinite political power.
39 posted on 04/09/2014 3:00:50 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Vendome
Not gonna happen...

Lamous fast words.

40 posted on 04/09/2014 5:04:45 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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