He was dead to me after that debate.
Yes, and from reading the posts on this thread it looks like a lot of us remember that stupidly insulting and self righteous action by Kemp.
Out here in SoCal we also remember HUD Secretary Jack Kemp bullying the city of Costa Mesa when Costa Mesa was trying to reserve HUD housing for Americans- Kemp, a big lover of illegal immigrants, squashed Costa Mesa even though this harmed poor Americans. What a jerk.