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Iraq Combat Veteran Kills 3 and Injures 16 (liberals media blames "Bush Wars" on nutcase shooter)
http://www.nydailynews.com/ ^ | April 2, 2014 | New York Daily News

Posted on 04/03/2014 5:17:40 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet
Iraq Combat Veteran Kills 3 and Injures 16

Combat vet?

FOX NEWS reported that although the killer had been in Iraq he had never been in combat.


61 posted on 04/03/2014 6:51:47 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: KeyLargo
“We are going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened,” Obama said.

It's now on the hot list of issues he has promised to resolve.

He will get to it right after Fast and Furious, Ft. Hood #1, Benghazi, the IRS.....

62 posted on 04/03/2014 6:57:16 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Lopez served for four months in Iraq in 2011. He was not wounded in action while serving overseas, but self-reported a traumatic brain injury upon his return to the U.S. “He was not a wounded warrior,” said Lt. Gen. Mark Milley, the senior officer at Fort Hood. “He was not wounded in action, to our records, no Purple Heart, not wounded in action in that regard.”

— Lopez had several mental health issues. He was taking medication and receiving psychiatric help for depression and anxiety, and was undergoing a process to determine whether he had post-traumatic stress disorder. “We do not know a motive,”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/at-a-glance-details-about-fort-hood-gunman/2014/04/03/8c0c7e56-baed-11e3-80de-2ff8801f27af_story.html


63 posted on 04/03/2014 7:04:57 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
He could have had mental issues that had nothing to do with the 4 months he spent in Iraq.

Was Bush president in 2011?

only four months?

my nephew was a Marine in Iraq in 2011. There was so little going on, he wasn't even awarded his combat ribbon.

64 posted on 04/03/2014 7:06:59 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
GrandJediMasterYoda said: "... we still have military personnel walking around unarmed ..."

Yes.

The real headline should be, "U.S. Army loses Second Battle of Fort Hood while inflicting no casualties on a suicidal enemy".

65 posted on 04/03/2014 7:08:21 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: NKP_Vet

It will be interesting to learn about the guy; my gut feeling is that you have another marginal individual allowed into the service who required a number of waivers to enlist.


66 posted on 04/03/2014 7:15:37 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You ask a good question about recruiting. The bottom line is fewer and fewer young males are stepping up. The McCain/Palin families both produced young men who enlisted into the infantry but they are the exception. They either avoid serving entirely (Romney, Armey, Burr, Ryan, etc. families) or assure themselves an easy position nowhere near combat, usually in JAG (George P. Bush, son of Biden, son of Pataki, Adam Laxalt, etc.) There was a time when virtually all of the young males graduating out of VMI, The Citadel or Norwich had served or would serve; now I believe the number is below 15% in all three case.


67 posted on 04/03/2014 7:24:48 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: jersey117

exactly correct ... the shooters actions were ‘premeditated’


68 posted on 04/03/2014 7:49:19 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: NKP_Vet

http://www.capradio.org/news/npr/story?storyid=298708884


69 posted on 04/03/2014 8:00:10 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/03/fort-hood-shooting-veteran-ivan-lopez-three-dead


70 posted on 04/03/2014 8:03:44 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/apr/03/fort-hood-gunman-sought-mental-health-treatment/


71 posted on 04/03/2014 8:11:30 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Albion Wilde

Which of us volunteered at Walter Reed for 7 years?


You seem a little offended for some reason. You don’t respond with any information to expand understanding but simply assert some authority. (which is very weak) Did you read and acknowledge further information or are you that close minded?

Humans are complex. Behaviors are complex. There is NEVER just one cause. Of course a simple easy answer is what most people prefer............................


72 posted on 04/03/2014 8:14:29 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

My, aren’t you special.


73 posted on 04/03/2014 8:26:28 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

My, aren’t you special.


Why are you so offended?


74 posted on 04/03/2014 8:31:50 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: immadashell

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/03/fort-hood-shooting-veteran-ivan-lopez-three-dead

He was a truck driver. He was taking ambein for sleep. He said he heard a loud explosion in Iraq, his health records indicate he didn’t report to the clinic complaining of problems. His performance reports indicate nothing negative about his performance. But prepare yourself for endless stories about how messed up in the head he was and the only way he could deal with his problems was shooting people because the Army made him a trained truck driver (I mean killer).


75 posted on 04/03/2014 9:10:50 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet
because the Army made him a trained truck driver

Per report, have read, he requested that position (truck driver). Enlisted, per report, as infantry.

76 posted on 04/03/2014 9:30:17 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: PeterPrinciple
On a story in which post-war stress and TBI is being blamed for a guy shooting up a military base, you posted your theory that TBI or PTSD are simply emotional.

I took offense on behalf of our many brave service persons who suffer very real brain injury and related aftereffects from high-powered explosives, which as the article I posted pointed out, can be difficult to detect when they happen, so the soldier goes right back into activity, making it worse.

Do you think the many documented cases of men and women who have come home with these injuries, cases that are being studied and analyzed biostatistically since the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, are simply having mass hysteria? Do you really think we have made no progress in understanding this condition since WWII? Or are you just an unfeeling contrarian having a fun time on the keyboard today?

77 posted on 04/03/2014 9:39:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: ThunderSleeps; TADSLOS; Marie Antoinette

May God Bless your sons and keep them safe.


78 posted on 04/03/2014 9:46:20 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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Where are the records for Fort Hood gunman going on a peace and security mission to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula in the mid-2000s while with Puerto Rico National Guard?


79 posted on 04/03/2014 10:00:47 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Velveeta

More information ... http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/report-at-least-three-fort-hood-shooting-victims-r/nfRFZ/


80 posted on 04/03/2014 11:08:18 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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