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The F-35(like the “A-12”) IS A First Class PIECE OF LOCKHEED MARTIN SHIT!


5 posted on 04/02/2014 9:27:37 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I don’t think any company could produce a plane like the govt is asking for.

It has to do everything for everyone.

They had a great plane, the F22 and threw it away.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 9:31:37 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: US Navy Vet
The F-35(like the “A-12” and the F-22) IS A First Class PIECE OF LOCKHEED MARTIN SHIT!

There, fixed it.

34 posted on 04/02/2014 10:10:55 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Yep, I remember the Navy's canceled A-12, its documented in the book the Pentagon Wars.

GD went to the Navy and threatened to default on their fixed price contract unless the US renegotiated for more $$.

Dick Cheney told them to pound sand.

A decade later the Navy was still trying to get back the progress payments, which GD got by lying about progress.

42 posted on 04/02/2014 10:17:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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Ummm, the A12 was a McDonnell Douglas project


54 posted on 04/02/2014 10:47:23 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: US Navy Vet
The F-35(like the “A-12”) IS A First Class PIECE OF LOCKHEED MARTIN SHIT!


LMCO may have developmental issues with the F-35, most of which stem from their prototype developmental philosophy, but the aircraft is absolutely outstanding for the application for which it was intended.

The goal of the JSF was to volume produce a supersonic F-117 Stealth Fighter replacement that had several orders of magnitude better stealth properties than the F-117 while providing F-16 or better levels of fighter performance and maneuverability for daytime operation against next generation fighters and air defense systems.

As such it would fill a missing slot in the US Airforce caused by the retirement of the F-117, and would also replace the strike fighter version of the F-18 for the Navy and the AV-8 Harrier for the Marines with an attack aircraft with infinitely better stealth than the F-117 Stealth fighter but still have fighter capabilities at least on par with the F-16

Problem is, JSF was never intended to be a dedicated air superiority fighter, that job went to the ATF’s F-22 raptor. The JSF was always designed to be a strike fighter attack aircraft first and foremost, but one with outstanding air combat capabilities in it's own right.

LMCO came close enough to this goal that the F-35 could theoretically be pitched as an actual dedicated air superiority platform.

Our beloved Obama Administration and Democrat Congressional political leadership disingenuously cancelled the F-22 and the entire ATF program when they a=had 100% control of the government with the lie that they would replace the F-22 with the F-35, a task which the F-35 is incapable of doing

Now they want to kill the F-35.

61 posted on 04/02/2014 11:10:09 AM PDT by rdcbn
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“The (Lockheed)A-12 was produced from 1962 to 1964, and was in operation from 1963 until 1968. It was the precursor to the twin-seat U.S. Air Force YF-12 prototype interceptor, M-21 drone launcher, and the famous SR-71 Blackbird reconnaissance aircraft.”

“The McDonnell Douglas/General Dynamics A-12 Avenger II was a proposed American attack aircraft from McDonnell Douglas and General Dynamics. It was to be an all-weather, carrier-based stealth bomber replacement for the Grumman A-6 Intruder in the United States Navy and Marine Corps. Its Avenger II name was taken from the Grumman TBF Avenger of World War II.

The development of the A-12 was troubled by cost overruns and several delays, causing questions of the program’s ability to deliver upon its objectives; these doubts led to the development program being canceled in 1991.”


67 posted on 04/02/2014 11:19:19 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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