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Border buddies: A merger between the United states and Canada?
The Washington Times ^ | 3/23/2014 | Meghan Drake

Posted on 03/23/2014 5:27:20 PM PDT by markomalley

If Diane Francis had her way, the U.S. would share a lot more with its northern neighbor than the Great Lakes, maple syrup and Justin Bieber.

The editor-at-large for Toronto’s National Post argues that a complete merger of Canada and the United States would create a global colossus, add 13 stars to the American flag, eliminate the border and require just a few amendments to the Constitution. But, Ms. Francis acknowledged on a visit to Washington last week, not everyone up north is thrilled with the idea.

“I wanted to attack the Canadian establishment and say, ‘Wake up, there is [a merger] underway, let’s manage it to our benefit,’ and to attack American ignorance about Canada,” she said.

The “thought experiment,” first broached in a book she published late last year, was introduced on the 20th anniversary of the North American Free Trade Agreement as President Obama pushed for much broader trade agreements with the European Union and Asia-Pacific nations.

Ms. Francis envisions a full-on economic and political merger in which Canada’s provinces would become 13 states in the U.S. Quebec would become a commonwealth like Puerto Rico.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: blamecanada; canada; canadausmerger; futuredemocrats; keystonexl; mergerofthecentury; nafta; nwo; treason
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To: markomalley

I married a Canadian.
Merging countries won’t work.


101 posted on 03/23/2014 7:00:35 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: markomalley

Throw in Mehico, too.


102 posted on 03/23/2014 7:00:45 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: dfwgator
okay they keep Pam and Bieber. We negotiate from there?
103 posted on 03/23/2014 7:02:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: crusty old prospector

They are ruled out.


104 posted on 03/23/2014 7:02:54 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ctdonath2

but you are American, right?


105 posted on 03/23/2014 7:04:31 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: markomalley

As someone who worked for almost 30 years with/for a Canadian-based firm, when it comes to a merger I’d have Nunavut ....


106 posted on 03/23/2014 7:06:00 PM PDT by mikrofon (Tim Horton Rim-shot ;)
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To: mikrofon

I like it, especially if am forced to look south.


107 posted on 03/23/2014 7:08:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: markomalley

Lets meet at Tim Horton’s to debate this issue ...


108 posted on 03/23/2014 7:22:55 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: cripplecreek

require just a few amendments to the Constitution

Not only no but hell no. Our first and second amendments would have to go from what I know of Canadian law and practice.


109 posted on 03/23/2014 7:26:26 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

I’m not sure.

Canadians are an adapted country in part.

I agree they are much more civilized than Americans, but part of that may just be they’ve grown up dominated by Europe.

America is large enough to insist on our First and Second Amendments, or no way.

Just saying.

I think this would be a big challenge, but it’s an interesting idea anyway.


110 posted on 03/23/2014 7:30:03 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I agree they are much more civilized than Americans, but part of that may just be they’ve grown up dominated by Europe.

*Ahem* you know why Canada is more "Civilized" than the US.

111 posted on 03/23/2014 7:35:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: markomalley

I’m not sure who’s government is loonier theirs or ours.

JB


112 posted on 03/23/2014 7:38:05 PM PDT by thatjoeguy (Every law passed is one person forcing their morals on someone else.)
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To: markomalley

Curling. Will we have to carry curling stones to curling alleys?
Those things look really heavy. Canucks must be as strong
as gorillas.


113 posted on 03/23/2014 7:40:00 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: dfwgator

I’m saying that as a statement of fact, and also because I think it’s important to discuss.

I think Canadians do honestly believe themselves to be more civilized. I have no problem with that, and will even say I think they are as well in ways.

We are not terribly hung-up about being civilized in America, and that is (part-way anyway) liberating.

I believe Canada could have a very positive influence on the United States, but Canada would have to give on the first and second amendments.

The rest would also be important, but those two would be complete deal makers or breakers.

In fact I would tend to think we might want to advocate Canada integrate sort of like Hong Kong is integrating with China right now.

Keep two separate systems, and set a timetable for eventual integration into the American system.

But keep the Canadian system for say, 20 years.

Or something similar.

Either than, or not. Just thinking is all.


114 posted on 03/23/2014 7:45:30 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: markomalley

We tried it twice. Canada kicked our butts both times.


115 posted on 03/23/2014 7:49:53 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Might as well.”


Are you alright?


116 posted on 03/23/2014 8:28:10 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

As for the Canada and the 2nd Amendment, they might like it in Canada. When I go to Montreal to pick up my daughter from college, I sometimes pass through the Mowhawk Rez just south of the St Laurence. On the main road there is actually a store that sells Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, like the old joke for the perfect convencience store, or depanneur in Quebec. Plus they sell a lot of Chinese imports I never see here, like a Chinese knockoff of the Springfield M1A that goes for around $500.


117 posted on 03/23/2014 8:28:28 PM PDT by gusty
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To: no-to-illegals

Yup.


118 posted on 03/23/2014 8:37:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: JudyinCanada

“I have a better idea.

One country should take all the libs, the other all the conservatives and may the best ideology win.

No sense messing up two countries.”


Your right. Let the anti-American parts of Canada take all the Libs.

Oh...but honestly, on the other hand, I’ve met many wonderful Canadians, and would sure hate to ruin the prospect of being able to get the best maple syrup on the planet. And hotdogs. And bread. And coffee. And pastry. So...we will suffer 1/2, and Canada can suffer the other half. Is that fair, if this should come to pass? This way, each country will be inspired to make BOTH better.


119 posted on 03/23/2014 8:38:58 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: dalereed
You still believe that myth do you. If you have read any of Mark Steyn’s stuff, you would know that we only pretend to be less Socialist than Canada and Western Europe. We actually out perform our Canadian and European friends in handing out the taxpayers money to the unproductive, and we do not even have a single payer health system. The truth is if you are a layabout, there is more dole money to be had in the good old USA. To pay for this, we also have the higher tax rates than the EU countries. You see the EU countries tax their productive people less than we do, but expect their 47% to have a little skin in the game, unlike us. Like Steyn points out, we just pretend to be this free market paradise, when the truth is that we tax more, and hand out more per capita than Sweden. This has been true with either Obama or Bush as President. As a people, we have a great ability for self delusion.
120 posted on 03/23/2014 8:42:44 PM PDT by gusty
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