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GOP Field Hasn’t Been This Split in 40 Years
Five Thirty Eight ^ | 03/21/2014 | HARRY ENTEN

Posted on 03/21/2014 2:15:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ansel12

I wonder how ‘12 would have been different if Romney had gotten clobbered in ‘08 instead of ‘12. I wonder which candidate could have gotten the nod, absent Romney’s destructive campaign.

Frankly, I don’t think anything could have helped in ‘08 because Bush’s liberal policies had made such a mess, while putting the GOP brand on it.


21 posted on 03/21/2014 3:04:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Finny

You should run for governor. I’d vote for you. :)


22 posted on 03/21/2014 3:07:38 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I don’t know, but Romney is what destroyed us in 2008 and who lost to Jimmy Carter’s second term in 2012, and election that we could not lose.

Romney has always lost, but he always kept running because he had money, even in that single term he served he won with less than 50%, and then was driven out of office with 34% approval, so what did he do after being proven a political disaster? He spent 45 million dollars to promote himself up to dominating the national party and it’s presidential politics for the next 7 years.


23 posted on 03/21/2014 3:12:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Yer kiddin'! {^)

A decent governor would have gotten it right the first time:

There's an overwhelming probability that for Republicans and conservatives, 2016 will look very much like 2012: a contest between Uniparty colleagues, both wanting to apply government force in areas moral (forced acceptance of the gay agenda & abortion), personal (medical/health), and "scientific" (the environmentalist power grab of energy and food production).

24 posted on 03/21/2014 3:12:07 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny
Yer kiddin'! {^)

I ain't got time to kid. So to speak. LOL

25 posted on 03/21/2014 3:17:48 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with your conclusions, but think it is much more urgent to put right-headed locals in local government across our respective territories in 2014; most importantly, governors.

2016 is a challenge that only God can meet with our earthly support, whatever it shapes up to be.

Oh and another thing. Speak freely and be unafraid.


26 posted on 03/21/2014 3:25:39 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Boogieman

Who???

I would vote for Cruz, and that’s it, but I don’t see him beating the witch.

Ed


27 posted on 03/21/2014 3:36:41 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

History doesn’t always repeat itself, there is a new dynamic in play, we got a little taste of it 2010, and the appetite for this new dynamic has only grown greater...The Tea Party!

IMO!


28 posted on 03/21/2014 3:43:18 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: ansel12

Romney doesn’t know how to build political coalitions, only how to tear them down for his own personal gain. Like Fatso. Like The (yet another) Other Bush. Like Rubio. Huckleberry....etc.

The GOPe will blow the ‘14 election before they even get a chance to blow the ‘16 election.


29 posted on 03/21/2014 3:49:18 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty
Good. It’s nobody’s “turn,”

You're right. Good point. Something to pin our hopes on, I think.

30 posted on 03/21/2014 3:57:15 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: BfloGuy

Gives me hope, so I’m happy to share it with you.


31 posted on 03/21/2014 3:58:36 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Those other politicians are pretty successful although they are GOPe, Romney has always been a terrible politician, and far to the left of all of those mentioned.

Romney has only been a part time republican, he left the party during the Reagan years and became a democrat supporter and fundraiser and voter.

How Romney has managed to so dominate the republican party while only having won a single election in his life, and failing as that one term office holder, and having left the party and opposed the party and not accruing any baggage from it, or even a mention, is a true mystery.


32 posted on 03/21/2014 4:03:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

2016
I wouldn’t vote for any of those people, were do they get these list, there isn’t one conservative on it. No wonder they lose, they are all losers.


33 posted on 03/21/2014 4:22:28 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: ansel12
I've been nursing a theory: GOPe doesn't want to win leadership. They're perfectly happy maintaining the perks of their offices, and screw the people who trusted them. They've been bribed, and they went cheap.
34 posted on 03/21/2014 4:42:19 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Sir_Ed

First we have to beat the RINO machine before we can worry about beating Hillary, because we KNOW whoever they nominate won’t be able to do it. They’ll just give us another wet noodle willing to bow and scrape before her and hand her the presidency.

I think we need some conservative convention or caucus type deal before the Republican primaries even start, so that we have one candidate vetted that we all agree to back. Otherwise, we end up with multiple conservatives fighting each other, splitting the vote, and letting the moderate walk away with the prize.


35 posted on 03/21/2014 4:46:48 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Cyber Liberty

They do seem to a party of people who just want to work in the industry, people looking for long careers, without any driving political end in mind.


36 posted on 03/21/2014 4:47:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

They went cheaply. Sold us out for pennies on the dollar.


37 posted on 03/21/2014 4:48:59 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps it is a good thing that political parties take a good look at their accomplishments or lack thereof and then maybe take pause, reflect calmly and refine their thoughts and place their futures&fortunes on an agenda that works for everyone, not against half of us or to only benefit major donors and cronies.

Perhaps not too, altho it seems the Dems stepped up their game while the GoP struggled to get thru the ticket stiles much less find the playing court.

It’s time for a new generation of leadership and leaders across the board .. but don’t hold your breath.

When a FRee press does not exist ..

What difference does it make anyway?


38 posted on 03/21/2014 6:52:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; yongin; ...

Liz Warren, electable only in MA, would have lost to Brown in a midterm election.

Cory Booker, electable only in NJ, would have lost to be NJ RINO with the full support of the state party.

Both are clowns with a zero% chance of being elected President. It’s mystifying why either is being touted. Yeah ok it’s because she’s a “woman” and he’s Black, but still, come on.


39 posted on 03/21/2014 11:05:14 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

You are gravely underestimating Cory Booker. He is smarter than Obama, a better orator than Obama, and much likelier than Obama to adopt conservative positions on some issues (school choice for one). If Obama can be elected president, Cory Booker certainly can.

As for the fact that Booker might have lost to a RINO supported by the RNC, that is true, particularly in a special election at a time in which Democrats were unpopular thanks to Obamacare and other issues. But it is also true that Obama would have lost the 2004 Senate election had Combine-backed Republucan been the GOP nominee; heck, he probably would have lost against Jack Ryan, which is why Obama’s goons got that California judge to release illegally the sealed records of Ryan’s divorce.

Obama won two presidential elections, despite his gaping flaws. We can’t turn into Vizzini, repeating the word “unelectable” until someone points out, after the next election, that that word that we kerp using doesn’t mean what we think it means.


40 posted on 03/22/2014 5:41:01 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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