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To: eclecticEel

The real question is “Do we want to win, or just prefer whining after the elections, when the Dems win?”


12 posted on 03/21/2014 11:05:43 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Democrats don’t spend their time attacking each other; they reserve all their invective for the other party. If we really wanted to win, we’d do the same.


16 posted on 03/21/2014 11:15:43 AM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Innovative

Burnishing your RINO credentials. Go play over at DU. Compromise is moving futher left. ESAD.


17 posted on 03/21/2014 11:16:21 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Innovative
The real question is “Do we want to win, or just prefer whining after the elections, when the Dems win?”

First, there are a lot of people here who prefer the latter. These are the folks that are happy to nominate candidates who are unelectable in a general election, and then use their loss to highlight their belief that we are going to hell in a handbasket.

Second, if there ever was such a thing as an "establishment" hack, Jennifer Rubin is it. She makes a good point now and again, but it is hard to take someone so unimaginative, so lacking in vision, and so wedded to running "moderate" candidates too terribly seriously. I can see why most actual conservatives would be skeptical of anything she writes.

Third, I do agree we need to run good candidates. We should be nominating the most conservative candidates that CAN win. No more Sharon Angles or Christine O'Donnell's please. This is not TEA Party specific. It wasn't the TEA Party that got us that idiot Todd Akin - that was the social conservative, Huckabee wing of the party. Had we nominated the Palin supported TEA Party candidate Sarah Steelman, we would have won that Senate seat. Nor is this an endorsement of only supporting "mainstream" Republican candidates. Plenty of those lost as well where a good solid conservative might have won. The key is nominating the most conservative candidate that CAN actually win a general election. This means the candidate can't have a ton of baggage and skeletons in their closet, the candidate can't have said stupid things about rape, the candidate should have the political skills to actually win general elections (usually that means starting out at the very local level and gaining political skills on the way up to higher office), etc.

21 posted on 03/21/2014 11:28:39 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Innovative
The real question is “Do we want to win...?"

Win what, inno FRiend?

More government? Is that what "we" want to win?

Folks who expected me to vote for Romney sure as hell thought so. They were wrong.

52 posted on 03/21/2014 3:20:13 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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