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To: cizinec

You know we don’t have to go to war with Russia, right? We can make Putin’s decision to annex the Ukraine hurt quite a bit without sending armored divisions across the plains of Russia.

I recognize your point about how the Crimea became part of Ukraine. It’s a valid point too. But there is lots of territory that could change hands if we start down that road. All sorts of justifications for why country A should have this part of country B. You know the Ukranians gave up a lot of nuke warheads with a general understanding that this would not happen, right. And partly thanks to Obama, they also destroyed a large portion of their conventional weapons that they’d need to arm the real military they will now have to build.

How do you think our allies in Taipei, Tokyo, etc, etc are feeling watching America embarrassed repeatedly on the world stage. Think maybe they are hedging their bets thinking maybe America can’t be relied on? I know if I’m running a country in Russia or China’s sphere of influence I’m thinking real hard about building my own nuke program.

This type of weakness and isolationism effects everything. Think countries in Asia can sign deals with us China doesn’t like if they feel China is the greater power in the region? Same thing applies in Europe and elsewhere.

No, I don’t think many are arguing for war. But we sure as heck should be making this significantly painful for Russia economically. As is, they are giggling at our impotent President and gleeful at the isolationism creeping through the Republican party that for years stood strong against those who threaten our interests.


22 posted on 03/19/2014 1:56:30 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Obama neutered us long before this crisis. This *is* the effect, not the cause. We now have extraordinarily few options that anyone will take seriously. Our allies have been lamenting (some celebrating) our exit long before Putin invaded Ukraine.

Putin does not take Barry seriously. If you were Putin, would you? If Barry gets serious, how will Putin know to stop pushing the situation until he has lost control himself?

The only thing we can expect to happen that will give Putin pause is a regime change HERE. Unfortunately, that won't happen until 2016. That is plenty of time for Europe to get out of control.

The train has already jumped the track. You can't put it right until it's stopped and you've cleaned up the mess.

30 posted on 03/20/2014 4:58:24 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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