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Turkey threatens Russia
Ukrainian Policy ^

Posted on 03/18/2014 9:58:21 AM PDT by meatloaf

"The threat to close the Bosphorus to Russia comes from a report by Hvylya, citing a Turkish diplomatic source. According to the source, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan yesterday spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin on the phone and warned of the consequences for conflict with Ukraine. The Hvylya source was also reported on by UNIAN."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: bosphorus; brzezinski; crimea; erdogan; euthugs; globalistchessgame; iran; islam; lebanon; nato; natopowergrab; obama; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; syria; turkey; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; waronterror; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/18/2014 9:58:22 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf

LOL! So, is Putin laffin’ harder at threats from Turkey or threats from a turkey? Just wonderin’.


2 posted on 03/18/2014 9:59:53 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: meatloaf
Is Turkey relying on NATO to get them out of this situation?

3 posted on 03/18/2014 10:01:26 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Genoa

When Turkey wants to be NATO, they are.


4 posted on 03/18/2014 10:02:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: meatloaf

In that case, Go Russia, at least they would restore Constantinople.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 10:02:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: meatloaf

Turkey.....wouldn’t let us use their door when we were headin’ for Iraq.


6 posted on 03/18/2014 10:04:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: meatloaf

Obama must have called his brothers in Turkey and said “Get some of this heat off me!”

What a freakin’ circus! Cringe-worthy.


7 posted on 03/18/2014 10:04:10 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: meatloaf

Given the current government of Turkey, go Vlad, and widen the channel while you are at it.


8 posted on 03/18/2014 10:04:41 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: rktman

Russia’s forfeiting of Turkey’s permission to transit the Bosporus Straits practically negates the value of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, Russia’s only warm water naval port and commercial seaport, and devastates the Crimea’s merchant marine economy.


9 posted on 03/18/2014 10:05:16 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: meatloaf

Turkey threatening real sanctions while the kenyan and merkel give Putin a backrub. LOL.


10 posted on 03/18/2014 10:05:23 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: meatloaf

Guess this means Turkey will allow 4th ID to disembark at its ports now....oh, wait...what 4th ID?


11 posted on 03/18/2014 10:05:49 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: meatloaf
I think I got this right. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Kinda dumb....Russia exports oil to Europe through the straits.

12 posted on 03/18/2014 10:06:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: meatloaf

What will Turkey do if all the Russian tourists stop coming?


13 posted on 03/18/2014 10:07:52 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: meatloaf

Turkey could mine the striates. Intelligent mines can be set to go off on only certain ships. Why Turkey would want to further annoy Russia is beyond me.

Incidentally, Russia has been carrying on a clandestine war inside Turkey for years. They bring in a hit man, then kill a few Islamists who are using Turkey as a base to target Russian interests. To my knowledge Turkey has never caught a hit man. It’s likely the hitter is out of the country by the time the body is discovered. Very efficient, the FSB.


14 posted on 03/18/2014 10:08:14 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: meatloaf
Ok, so if they do that to the Bosphorus,what if the Russian ally of Iran then closes the Strait of Hormuz? By any measure if Turkey can do it, why can`t Iran? And if the Russians back them up with naval and air power?

These people need to back off, Ukraine IS NOT worth WWIII!

15 posted on 03/18/2014 10:09:05 AM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

A lot less started WW I.


16 posted on 03/18/2014 10:10:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: WhiskeyX

No way Turkey wants Russia in control the entire northern half of the Black Sea. Putin has troops in Kherson and seems to be thinking about taking everything from Crimea to Moldova.


17 posted on 03/18/2014 10:11:52 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

Yes, if I were Putin I’d be more concerned about this than the G8 nonsense.


18 posted on 03/18/2014 10:12:47 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: nomad

By any measure if Turkey can do it, why can`t Iran?


Russia has invaded a neighbor with a fifth column of soldiers with no insignia. Planted landmines, naval blockaded, etc., etc. Then annexed their neighbor. All war crimes there.

Get back to me when Iran invades Iraq and does that.


19 posted on 03/18/2014 10:14:28 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: meatloaf

That didn’t take long.

Turkey knows what Russia’s long range goals are (and have been for hundreds of years). To retake Constantinople.


20 posted on 03/18/2014 10:15:50 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Truth29

Somehow or other between 1600 and 1900, Europeans needed to take 20 years off from their internecine fighting and drive the turks back into central Asia where they belong.


21 posted on 03/18/2014 10:16:53 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Genoa

The Bosporus is the sovereign territory of Turkey. Warships can’t pass without advance permission. Remember, it took the Chinese 16 months to get permission from Turkey to tow the Varyag though the straits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_aircraft_carrier_Liaoning


22 posted on 03/18/2014 10:18:06 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: lodi90

“Putin has troops in Kherson and seems to be thinking about taking everything from Crimea to Moldova.”

Yes, and Moldova.

Kaliningrad is another hotspot with Russian military forces there engaged in unusual movements which have the Lithuanian and Latvian governments concerned enough to request additional assistance from NATO and the United States.


23 posted on 03/18/2014 10:18:13 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: varmintman
Europeans needed to ... drive the turks back into central Asia

The best chance was after WW1, but they blew it.

24 posted on 03/18/2014 10:19:18 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: redgolum
Turkey knows what Russia’s long range goals are (and have been for hundreds of years). To retake Constantinople.

Any way to contribute to the effort??

25 posted on 03/18/2014 10:19:27 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: meatloaf
Pooty won't wait that long.

26 posted on 03/18/2014 10:20:05 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: nomad

Hormuz is not Iran’s sovereign territory. Istanbul sits on both sides of the Bosporus. At least Turkey has some nads as compared to our community organizer-in-chief.


27 posted on 03/18/2014 10:20:42 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

No doubt Obama told the Turkish leader that the US has his back on this. Good luck with that.

I read once that Obama and Erdogan have a “special relationship”. That Obama has spoken with him on the phone far more times than any other world leader.

No doubt Obama’s superior intelligence and grasp of world affairs tells him Turkey is the key to solving the problems of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, straddling the two cultures as it does. Or so he thinks.

The results speak for themselves.


28 posted on 03/18/2014 10:22:07 AM PDT by keat
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To: Sacajaweau

Not an issue. Europe can buy oil elsewhere. It’s natural gas that’s a problem. Unfortunately Russia would be taking a head shot if it deliberately decided to stop exporting gas and oil. That’s 50% of their federal income.


29 posted on 03/18/2014 10:23:28 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Very true, and they let the muzzys run wild at home.


30 posted on 03/18/2014 10:23:47 AM PDT by soycd
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To: lodi90

No, they don`t have to, we did. BTW, how`d that turn out?


31 posted on 03/18/2014 10:34:35 AM PDT by nomad
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To: redgolum
Turkey knows what Russia’s long range goals are (and have been for hundreds of years). To retake Constantinople.

May the Russians succeed in that endeavor.

32 posted on 03/18/2014 10:35:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: meatloaf

So Ukraine is worth WWIII?


33 posted on 03/18/2014 10:35:21 AM PDT by nomad
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To: WhiskeyX
We have a winner: now would be a good time to clean Assad's clock and get the Russian fleet out of the Med also.

Oh, but I assumed someone in the insane clown posse running DC has a strategic thought in their heads.

34 posted on 03/18/2014 10:44:59 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Gen.Blather

Because they have long standing ties to the Crimean Tartars and are also directly threatened by Russia’s aggressiveness in the Black Sea and Caucasus.


35 posted on 03/18/2014 10:46:16 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: keat

Yes, as always, Obama stands with the Muslims.


36 posted on 03/18/2014 10:47:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pierrem15

Once again, going to war for Muzzies.


37 posted on 03/18/2014 10:47:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: meatloaf

38 posted on 03/18/2014 10:49:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: meatloaf

So, should we back the Turks because they are not Russians, or back the Russians because they are not Turks?


39 posted on 03/18/2014 10:50:00 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

I back the non-muslim country.


40 posted on 03/18/2014 10:50:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nomad
LOL: the longer we do nothing, the greater the chance a small or middle weight power will make a move misjudging the situation that actually provokes WWIII.

Nothing promotes stability like a projection of non-aggressive strength-- right now we are projecting complete impotence.

Some members of the Senate and House need quietly to approach Obozo and inform him he needs to replace John "Swimming to Cambodia" Kerry and Chucky "Never saw a defense cut I didn't like" Hagel immediately with some competent secretaries who will run US defense and foreign policy until Bambi leaves office.

41 posted on 03/18/2014 10:51:25 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: dfwgator

LOL— perfect representation of the dim bulbs in DC.


42 posted on 03/18/2014 10:52:15 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: pierrem15

Sometimes I really wish we had the British form of government where we could force a “No Confidence” vote.


43 posted on 03/18/2014 10:52:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Genoa
Is Turkey relying on NATO to get them out of this situation?

International law died with the election of Obama...

44 posted on 03/18/2014 10:52:39 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fighter pilot manoeuvers"? One of the Saudi’s we trained in Texas years ago?)
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To: lodi90

They’ve already done that in Syria using their proxy Hezbollah and are now trying to arm Hamas to the teeth.


45 posted on 03/18/2014 10:53:45 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: dfwgator
Sometimes I really wish we had the British form of government where we could force a “No Confidence” vote.

The same thing was said during Watergate before Nixon resigned.

Anyway, Harry Reid wouldn't let it come to a vote in the Senate, even if we had that in The Constitution.

46 posted on 03/18/2014 10:55:46 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: pierrem15

“Because they have long standing ties to the Crimean Tartars and are also directly threatened by Russia’s aggressiveness in the Black Sea and Caucasus.”

So, we’re bound by treaty to defend Turkey if they’re attacked, does that mean if they provoke the attack? Because if the mess with Putin’s efforts to rebuild the Russian empire they’re going to get their &ss handed to them. Frankly, I don’t want to defend a Muslim nation that sided against us in the Iraq war. It was only Bush’s bluff that kept Saddam from moving his northern army to Kuwait.


47 posted on 03/18/2014 10:55:47 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: meatloaf
Turkey threatens Russia

Like a chihuahua snarling and snapping at a rottweiler and then retreating behind it's master.

48 posted on 03/18/2014 10:58:30 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

If Turkey attacks Russia, then I’ll see you next year in Constantinople.


49 posted on 03/18/2014 10:59:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pierrem15

Crimean Tartars make really good sauce.

The Crimean Tatars made use of their strategic position between the Ottomans and the Russians. They supplied slaves for the Ottoman Janissary corps from the neighboring peoples; so many, in fact, that even the English word “slave” derives from the ethnic signifier “Slav.”


50 posted on 03/18/2014 11:00:10 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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