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Final words from jet came after systems shutdown
Yahoo Finance ^ | March 16, 2014 | AP: CHRIS BRUMMITT and JIM GOMEZ

Posted on 03/16/2014 12:27:57 PM PDT by Innovative

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This makes it pretty conclusive that it was either the pilots, or someone already took over the plane. I wonder if they can do a voice analysis -- one would think they should be able to do that to find out whether one of the pilots spoke those final words or someone else.
1 posted on 03/16/2014 12:27:57 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Real final words - Allah Akbar!


2 posted on 03/16/2014 12:32:16 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Innovative

Now we’re gettin’ somewhere.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 12:35:32 PM PDT by moovova
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Weren’t most of the passengers Chinese citizens?

Don’t seem to be hearing much from the Chinese govt?

Surprised at this.


4 posted on 03/16/2014 12:38:16 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Innovative
It's looking a lot like one or both of the pilots planned this carefully.

They chose to go dark right at the hand-off point between Malaysian ATC and Vietnamese, maximizing the time before they would be missed. Then they turned west to minimize tracking by military radar. Then probably northwest towards a destination somewhere in the 'stans.

There remains the problem of Indian and other military radar along the way. How do they react to non-transponding blips? Perhaps, Captain Zaharie tail-gated a legitimate flight for a ways. ATC would see the legitimate flight's squawk. Military radar would see the legitimate squawk along with a slightly brighter blip?

5 posted on 03/16/2014 12:38:59 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Innovative; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

According to later reports the last words recorded were as follows: “Famous last words!”


6 posted on 03/16/2014 12:40:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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No doubt it was one of the pilots. But which one? Was it the 53 year old father of three, aviation enthusiast and political opponent of the current Malaysian leadership? Or was it the 26 year old well connected pampered co pilot who fancies himself a stud and who’s father is well connected politically?Hunch: The 26 year old came on to one of those hot flight attendants and she told him in no uncertain terms to get lost. He was probably angry and humiliated. Young men in that condition do silly and impulsive things. He probably went jihadist and thought if he killed his mostly infidel Chinese passengers, he would be a martyr and get his 72 virgins. Investigators should interview Malaysian flight attendants to learn the real deal about these pilots. Actually probably will never know what really happened but the Malaysian government no doubt will blame the older pilot.


7 posted on 03/16/2014 12:41:00 PM PDT by allendale
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There was an FR post earlier today (which has since been pulled) in which an apparent FR aviation expert informed us that the ACARS sends data ONLY on significant events (gear-up, gear-down, achieving cruise) and NEVER on time. So the reports that it sent out data every half hour are wrong - it would not be expected to send out more data until gear-down (which didn’t happen).


8 posted on 03/16/2014 12:41:43 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Innovative

I was thinking it was “Thank you, come again”


9 posted on 03/16/2014 12:43:55 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Innovative; crosslink; Black Agnes; hoosiermama; maggief; LucyT; SatinDoll; null and void

Ping to this link!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3133902/posts?page=1#1

Innovative, thanks for the post!


10 posted on 03/16/2014 12:44:30 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: cynwoody

Did you already see the possible wreckage and debris on this thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3133830/posts?page=65


11 posted on 03/16/2014 12:45:02 PM PDT by txhurl
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If these planes can transmit to satellites, then why do we have FDR and CVR boxes at all?

Why not transmit relevant operational data, along with cockpit voice recordings to the satellite, every 60 seconds or something, and do away with the boxes?

The airline companies can record the whole thing and toss them out after a safe landing, or keep them for a week or something.

It's bound to be less traffic than the legions of twits.

12 posted on 03/16/2014 12:48:29 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Hello Izzy. You got that right. There was no indication that the ACARS was turned off. The last ACARS data downlink was at cruise initiation at 1:07. It’s next scheduled data downlink should have been at geardown. No geardown means no ACARS downlink. That is the way it is supposed to work.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 12:48:53 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: WildHighlander57; crosslink; hoosiermama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpL1i63lsas&feature=youtu.be

#MH370 : CCTV Footages of Captain and First Officer at Security Check Point KLIA


14 posted on 03/16/2014 12:48:57 PM PDT by maggief
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“Was it the 53 year old father of three”...

See my link in post 156 on antoher thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3133704/posts?page=156#156

The article I linked in that post says:

“And in a new twist, it emerged that the pilot’s wife and three children moved out of the family’s home the day before the plane’s disappearance.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-3248001#ixzz2w9njxFQ6

Somewhat suspicious, to say the least...


15 posted on 03/16/2014 12:50:10 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Izzy Dunne
ACARS sends data ONLY on significant events (gear-up, gear-down, achieving cruise) and NEVER on time. So the reports that it sent out data every half hour are wrong - it would not be expected to send out more data until gear-down (which didn’t happen).

Reportedly, they turned off ACARS first, before the transponder. What they neglected to do, however, was also to turn off the satellite radio system that ACARS uses. It pings the geosynchronous satellite from time to time, even if it has no traffic, and the satellite is able to gauge the airplane's distance, but not its direction, from the ping timing. That is what those circular arcs on the map are based upon.

16 posted on 03/16/2014 12:50:40 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Innovative

From this morning’s presser.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-live-3245935#ixzz2w9oJj3Uy

9:56 am
The plane did not take off with any additional fuel, the press conference is told.

Another journalist asks about reports that the pilot’s family moved out of their home in the days before the flight. The police say that is not correct.

They confirmed they took a flight simulator from the pilot’s home.

It is possible that signals received from the plane after it lost contact with ground control could have been sent while the plane was on the ground, so long as it had electrical power, officials add.


17 posted on 03/16/2014 12:52:31 PM PDT by maggief
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Sorry, i9t turns out that the last recorded message appears to have been: "Roger, Roger!"
18 posted on 03/16/2014 12:54:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: txhurl

That tomnod.com imagery is definitely the wreckage, and I think I even see a life raft and a paddle, even. Not joking.


19 posted on 03/16/2014 12:55:13 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Innovative

I know nothing about aviation, so bear with me: Is there any legitimate reason why a pilot would turn off the transponder while a plane is in flight?


20 posted on 03/16/2014 12:55:19 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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