Posted on 03/16/2014 5:22:42 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
March 16th, 2014
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn.; Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn.; Bill Gates.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee; Cmdr. William Marks, spokesman for the Navy's 7th Fleet, which is involved in the search for the missing Malaysian Airlines jet.
Yes sir, its on your freepmail.
Boeing isn’t going to release something unless they have to or need to. They would have a strong defense in saying this service was not provided or paid for. What I mean is, they would have it among all the data they have anyway but they would not look for it unless necessary.
In the long run that may not be totally true. Boeing would be wise to cover themselves against possible liability or actions against them. That means having the data if it’s ever needed by them but not releasing it unless requested.
Thank you.
Yea, I agree. What it boils down to is that “during the search, no one was smart enough to ask Boeing right question”.
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Wiki on ACARS says, "Most ACARS messages are only 100 to 200 characters in length."
If this flight had been transmitting GPS data, the search effort would be substantially narrowed.
I did see the photos that are claimed to maybe be this flight, in shallow waters off the coast of Malaysia. Most unconfirmed reports end up being no more than gum-flapping. Keeps people reading the news and catching the advertisements.
I'm sure Boeing would provide all the information it had (if it had any that was flight-specific, not saying for sure it did), pronto. Not that the information would be delivered publicly, just that any entity involved in the loss would get the information, especially the airline and the national authorities.
Boeing is always in line for a lawsuit on a crash event, even if the primary cause is traced back to pilot error. "Could have designed the aircraft to make this error less likely," etc.
Thanks Cboldt. More facts added to the pile.
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Summarizing with latest facts: 1. Both the ACARS and AHM use the same Iridium transponder 2. Since the airline did not subscribe to AHM either no aircraft system data was ever sent or if it was Boeing archieved it 3) the Iridium transponder on the 777 pings the Iridium satellite system once per hour no matter what the ACARS or AHM are doing, and 4. Since the final ACARS report was never recieved either the gear never came down or the transponder was in an Iridium hole when the transition was made. How is that?
Mentioned now per the Drudge Report
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?hp&_r=0
Judy “Skeletor” Woodruff? Good gawd.....
On the Boeing 777, the system that collects aircraft performance is called a "Central Maintenance Computer" (CMC), rather than an "Airplance Condition Monitoring System" (ACMS). That difference may facilitate searching for more particlar details about the data collected by a Boeing 777 CMC. It (the CMC) appears to be a Honeywell Aerospace product, "Primus Epic." Honeywell Avionics article - Evolution of Aircraft Maintenance Systems.
Hello Morgan. The article you just referenced is old info. It states that the crew made no reference to the ACARS during their transmission to the ground before they disabled the ATC (air traffic control) transponders and stopped talking on the comm system. The ATC transponders and the voice com systems are completely separate system from the ACARS, AHM, and Iridium transponder.
While the troubleshooting systems were functioning, no data links were opened, the sources said, because the companies involved had not subscribed to that level of service from the satellite operator.Boeing Co, which made the missing 777 airliner, and Rolls-Royce, which supplied its Trent engines, declined to comment.
The fact that the planes communications devices are "pinging" is different from the system sending data; so the presence of pings and absence of data is not an unusual condition.
I gather from all this that Boeing doesn't have any data; and that the absence of data (e.g., the gear down report) is due to a decision by Malaysia Airline to not obtain information captured by the 777's CMC in real time.
Hello again Cboldt. Read your two articles. Great dtuff. Good overviews. The one thing they do not discuss is what happens if you don’t subscribe. Probably have to talk to a Boeing person to find that out. I have not seen it anywhere in my searches. But whatever happens to the data, at least we know where the pings are came from.
Alright Cboldt. I agree with everything in your post. The folks reading this post will never be able to listen to another MSM news report on the 777 mystery.
Lookin’ fer two hunnert here Larri.
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