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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 March 2014
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 16 March 2014 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 03/16/2014 5:22:42 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



March 16th, 2014

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn.; Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer; Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn.; Bill Gates.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee; Cmdr. William Marks, spokesman for the Navy's 7th Fleet, which is involved in the search for the missing Malaysian Airlines jet.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guests; lineup; mh370; sunday; talkshows
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To: Balata

Hello Balata. It is more the DR. There is one assumption you have to make about the ground track while the pilot was flying over the Indian Ocean. He flew in a straight line. Using my KISS rule. If you layout 6 Iridium satellite circles on the surface of the earth that correspond to the 6 pings and try to overlay a straight line thru them you should be able generate a fairly good ground track. That is not dead reckoning.


161 posted on 03/16/2014 9:17:57 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: Balata

If he flew multiple random headings we will never find the airplane.


162 posted on 03/16/2014 9:20:17 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: rodguy911

Hello Rodguy911. Please read posts 161 and 162. Even with 250 mile circles, as long as he flew in a straight line it should be a doable search. However, if he changed headings several times during the 5 hours over the Indian Ocean we will probably never find the plane.


163 posted on 03/16/2014 9:25:12 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14
It sends 3 reports during each flight made by the 777.

It may only send 3 reports but doesn't it gather data for those reports and store them inhouse for the entire flight???

164 posted on 03/16/2014 9:25:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: rodguy911

Then there’s this thread...Greek Ship Sent to Investigate Possible Plane Wreckage in Straights of Malacca

freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3133830/posts


165 posted on 03/16/2014 9:26:36 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Hello Uncle Chip. Yes it does store the data onboard, during the flight, for later downlink at geardown. Hope that helps.


166 posted on 03/16/2014 9:31:31 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14

Hello once again Uncle Chip. For clarification we are discussing the ACARS.


167 posted on 03/16/2014 9:32:53 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: rodguy911

Do you have a Web site for your rods?


168 posted on 03/16/2014 9:34:43 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14

Your information has been very helpful — thanks.


169 posted on 03/16/2014 9:36:17 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: robert14
-- There are 2 data down link systems. The ACARS does not provide GPS data; only engine parameters. It available to the airlines for free. The AHM is a subscription service. The airline must pay a monthly fee to get the data. It includes GPS data. MAL did not subscribe so they did not get the data. --

AHM communicates via ACARS (see Boeing Aircraft Health Management brochure).

ACARS is a data communication network, AHM is a set of data communicated on that network.

My understanding is that Boeing gets the AHM data whether or not the airline subscribes to the service. Yours is the first assertion I've read that AHM includes GPS data. Assuming that AHM does include GPS, my comment was just that the GPS data has to come from a plane-board computation, and I speculated that GPS computation might be turned off by the operator of the aircraft.

170 posted on 03/16/2014 9:47:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: PaleoBob

“Elections are battles not wars.” - Well put

Lincoln had to go through a number of Generals before the North won their war of aggression.

We do need to have principled limited g’ment, strong individuals with good communications skills as our leader running for elected office. In Texas, Dan Patrick running for the Lt. Governor’s spot is that person.

Voting for a RINOs is a vote for Socialism. In Texas the current sitting senator who is up for re-election, John Wayne McCornin, is that RINO leading the way to dictatorial socialism


171 posted on 03/16/2014 9:52:46 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: robert14

Add me to those who thank you for your posts and information. In a world of misinformation, it was great to read something that makes sense instead of old media hype and speculation.


172 posted on 03/16/2014 10:02:59 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Cboldt

Hello again Cboldt. I assume that both systems use the same onboard transponder. They each must have their own processor that shares the transponder. The AHM, according to the Boeing ad, contains 160,000 parameters. That has to include GPS data. If not, it surely includes altitude, heading, and airspeed from the air data/pitot system. Did you see the just published photos of the 777 floating in the water off the coast of Malyasia? I am assuming the image is photo shopped.


173 posted on 03/16/2014 10:24:17 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: Cboldt; robert14

I would agree with Cboldt. Boeing has a lot invested and exposed to lawsuits so they would be smart to store this data regardless of whether or not an airlines purchases the service. The cost of data storage would be miniscule compared to real liability a lawsuit would create.


174 posted on 03/16/2014 10:24:34 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Hello Morgan. I would like to agree with you, but, why wasn’t the data released on day 1? Not releasing the data should result in a lawsuit from the families especially if we find out that anyone survived but died of exposure because the data was not released.


175 posted on 03/16/2014 10:29:37 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Hello again Morgan. The assumption I had made earlier was that without a subscription, the data is never down linked at all. That would relieve Boeing of any responsibility.


176 posted on 03/16/2014 10:33:42 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: robert14

Gotcha thanks. Seems like it could be a huge search area from what we know.


177 posted on 03/16/2014 10:34:10 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Wonder where that is,tough story changes every few hours.


178 posted on 03/16/2014 10:35:42 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Where is a good remove viewer when you need one....


179 posted on 03/16/2014 10:36:23 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: robert14

On this one, I agree. Boeing would not be subject to a lawsuit if they don’t have the responsibility. But, who knows. Most lawyers sue everyone connected to an event. Especially those who have “deep pockets” and the ability to pay. So logically, you’re right but in practice that’s not a sure thing.


180 posted on 03/16/2014 10:37:13 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The party of unintended consequences.)
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