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Officials 'convinced' Two Communications Systems on Missing Jet Were Deliberately Shut Off
dailymail.co.uk ^

Posted on 03/14/2014 9:39:39 AM PDT by tsowellfan

US officials believe that two communications systems aboard Malaysian Airlines flight 370 were shut down separately, 14 minutes apart - which indicates the plane did not come down because of a sudden catastrophic failure.

The data reporting system was shut down at 1.07 am and the transponder was turned off at 1.21 am just after the the pilot signed off to Malaysian air traffic controllers with 'All right, good night,' and before the Boeing 777 apparently changed course and turned west.

According to investigators this indicated that the switch-off could have been a deliberate act and officials told ABC News that the two communications devices were 'systematically shut down'.

That has led the US investigating team to become 'convinced there was manual intervention' which in turn means it was not an accident or massive malfunction that caused the plane to cease to be airborne...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flight370; flightmh370; iran; malaysia; mh370; terrorism; waronterror
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To: Sacajaweau

Are you being serious? None of what you just described is possible. How would you parachute out of a 777?


21 posted on 03/14/2014 10:12:35 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Toespi

I was looking at airports in Burma. there are several that are well within range of the plane. One of them has several hangers that you could use to hide the plane.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 10:14:27 AM PDT by sleepwalker (this place for rent)
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To: Toespi
what did it accomplish? An act of terror is pointless unless the world knows it was an act of terror. So far, there is nothing to indicate what, why or how.....just a missing plane.

Maybe the "act of terror" has not happened yet and this was simply obtaining one of the tools for whatever "act of terror" may be planned in the future.

Unlike the politically minded terrorist group, the religiously fundamentalist terrorist group does not always seek to take credit for their destruction.

Aum Shinrikyo did not take credit for their subway attack.

Al-Qaida did not even take credit for some of its attacks against U.S. interests during the 1990’s.

They don't do it for the attention, they do it because they think it's "good" they do it for the 72 virgins they will be rewarded with.

They take great satisfaction just knowing that they inflicted damage on their religious enemy or on the infidels. That's why the religious terrorist is considered one of the most dangerous terrorists.

23 posted on 03/14/2014 10:14:31 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

I’m not a pilot, but I’m hoping some flyers out there in FReeper-land can answer this question for me: Why is it necessary that a pilot or anyone else on board an airliner be able to shut down transponders or other on-board reporting systems? It seems it would be sensible to make it impossible to shut them down. Why does a pilot need the capability of shutting down these systems?


24 posted on 03/14/2014 10:16:40 AM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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To: tsowellfan

If the pilot was giving cheery responses after the “data reporting system” was shut down but before the transponder was shut off then there really isn’t much doubt that one or more of the crew were complicit in this.


25 posted on 03/14/2014 10:19:28 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Dallas59
So the pilot or another depressed ROP went all goofy for Allah.

Yep, I'm betting on a radical Islamic piece to the puzzle. In fact, that was my thought in the first minutes and now after almost a week the "experts" are coming around to this being a crime (terrorism related). Too bad we can't simply profile passengers and crew and we would have an answer.

26 posted on 03/14/2014 10:20:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: tsowellfan

Is it possible that the two pilots were seeking to flee Malaysia and gain asylum elsewhere - a la Edward Snowden?

We have learned that their outbound signals were terminated - but what about their incoming radio reception? Can they still receive information about the searchers and tracking?

Perhaps the passengers/hostages are more valuable as a bargaining chip than the aircraft.


27 posted on 03/14/2014 10:23:34 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Toespi

Like that TWA flight....Co pilot gets it in his head he’s being called to paradise by the big Jihadist in the sky and wants to take as many with him to meet his 72 virgins.


28 posted on 03/14/2014 10:23:39 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: blackdog

Once landed a 152 and hopped off onto the first available taxiway (less than 500’)

The controller was anxiously instructing the commercial flight behind me to do some S-turns for clearance.

I think the next tower transmission was “Cessna 7154N, take first aval.......... Cessna 7154N, thank you, nice landing” followed buy a similar comment from the other pilot.


29 posted on 03/14/2014 10:27:15 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: tsowellfan

It takes six hrs to fly across the US


30 posted on 03/14/2014 10:30:10 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Spartan79

Why would a pilot need to shut off a transponder?

1. It is malfunctioning and sending out the wrong code.
2. It is malfunctioning and not properly encoding the altitude.
3. Is is malfunctioning to the point of creating a problem in the electrical system and possibly an electrical fire.

I can’t think of anything electrical on an aircraft (except the clock) that cannot be turned off with either a switch or a circuit breaker.


31 posted on 03/14/2014 10:34:49 AM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: tsowellfan
Quite agree. Given this new technique (converting the crew), you can bet the actual mission it is used in will be, in their words, "Spectacular", as chances of obtaining another round of airliners will be slim to none, so this one will have to count.

Round one - conventional hijacking, response: TSA the pax, reinforce the flight deck door, isolate the flight crew.

Round two - use the crew to hijack the plane, the doors are now secure, so they are safe(!). Response: no more muzzie flight crew (the rest of the world will not play this PC).

32 posted on 03/14/2014 10:42:10 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: Spartan79

In addition to above, 777 carries two. Switch is 3 way. Trans 1, Off, Trans 2.

This according to a 777 driver. (Not me!)


33 posted on 03/14/2014 10:44:30 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Riflema

Looking on the bright side, if it’s just missing there’s also the possibility that all those passengers are still alive.


34 posted on 03/14/2014 10:44:44 AM PDT by Newfy
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To: tsowellfan

That is not a correct map. The 777 can travel between 560-590 miles in one hour (490-512 nautical miles) with an endurance of over 5,240 to 9,300 miles (depending upon variant).

The map should extent into Iran, giving easy access to Yemen.


35 posted on 03/14/2014 10:44:53 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Riflema

Here’s a profile of one of the crew members

http://youtu.be/kyTTheEpMzw


36 posted on 03/14/2014 10:58:40 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Newfy

If you look at early articles about this episode, you will note discussions about families that tried dialing phones of the lost passengers.

They would ring and ring or would appear to be picked up then hung up.

Phones out of cell tower range (i.e. underwater) will go directly to voicemail.

It will be an interesting resolution to this story.


37 posted on 03/14/2014 10:59:19 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: rjsimmon

I agree. I would at the very least include Pakistan and eastern Iran as well on that map.


38 posted on 03/14/2014 11:00:08 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

It’s no fun when the system throws darts at your tail number. Move along to get along. That’s what the high speed turn-off’s are for.


39 posted on 03/14/2014 11:00:48 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Dallas59
The pilot (Zaharie) is a gay Atheist, and review of his 'YouTube likes' videos bears this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GmQjQRf94E&list=LLm6f3-wcpgLhxUR_ONPfoJA

Take a look-see. Wouldn't surprise me if Zaharie had dreams of ramming this aircraft into the Vatican. His 'like' of the disturbing Pope-bashing video says a lot.

40 posted on 03/14/2014 11:19:18 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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