[old and tired]

I am well aware that Israel is a secular state, but it is a state. Do Satmars not receive kollel money? (I don't know - I'm asking). I'm just saying it's not right that they should have it both ways - take all the benefits of the state but none of the sacrifices.

If the Satmars in Israel want to reap the benefits of the Israeli government, then they need to play by the state's rules. If not, they should emigrate to the United States where they can be as against the current Israeli state as the NY Times. They can plan to return to Israel when the Messiah delivers to them a genuine Jewish state.

I would like to hear your opinion on these matters.

[jjotto]

The Land of Israel belongs to the Jewish people, not to a government that sees itself based on ‘recognition’ by the United Nations.

It is a mitzvah for a Jew to dwell in the Land of Israel whether it is ruled by Crusaders or Ottomans or Jewish stooges of pagan empires.