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To: Alamo-Girl
Thank you so much for sharing your views, dear Just mythoughts!

Likewise.

Indeed, 2 Peter chapters 2 and 3 are speaking both to what has happened and what shall happen. And as those verses suggest, we look back in Scripture to understand prophecy about things that have not yet come to pass. And in this case, we can look to The Fall to reveal the first insight that a 1,000 days to Adamic man is equal to a day to God. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. - Genesis 2:17 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. - Genesis 5:5 But believers frequently disagree over prophecy, so I would not be surprised if you disagree with my understanding of the prophecies. God's Name is I AM.

So when in the 'mathematical equation' of time did the first reb.el re.bel? We know he was already a rebel in Genesis 2:9 described symbolically as the 'tree of knowledge of good and evil'. Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was they covering,......

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou *fallen* from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! (Genesis 1:2)How art thou cast down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Revelation 12.

But Moses does not pen anything regarding Satan's creation, nor the creation of each and every soul/spirit intellect. Yet we can know they existed prior to Genesis 1:3.

Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are Mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is Mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

It does not make sense that God would claim ownership of something/someone that did not already exist?

This is what Peter is talking about in the three different heaven/earth worlds (ages). Time before time was recorded. Then this flesh age, and the age yet to come wherein Christ takes His Throne here on this earth.

Yes, Christians do disagree and agree and agree to disagree regarding what the Word is actually saying.

58 posted on 03/10/2014 10:42:42 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts; betty boop; TXnMA; MHGinTN; metmom
Indeed, our understanding of Scripture concerning prophecy - past and future references - is quite different. So we shall have to agree to disagree even though we can recognize each other as brother/sister in Christ. Some day all will be revealed.

I do not share your understanding of Satan, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, different ages, etc. but I would like to address your question here:

It does not make sense that God would claim ownership of something/someone that did not already exist?

Time, including the arrow of time (past>present>future), does not apply to God. Time is part of the Creation and not a property of, or restriction on, God the Creator of it.

God alone sees all that there is all at once, every where and every when. Everything was made by Him for for Him, i.e. all things are factually His to do with as He pleases:

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. – Revelation 4:11

The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. - Psalms 24:1

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: - Col 1:16

Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. – Ezekiel 18:4

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, - Romans 9:21-23

Jesus being called “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world” is an example of the arrow of time not applying to God:

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. – Revelation 13:8

So also is the Book of Life:

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. – Revelation 17:8

And again:

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: - Ephesians 1:4

God's Name is I AM.

59 posted on 03/12/2014 7:47:39 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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