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E-Cigarette Ban: No Facts, No Logic, No Problem
Townhall.com ^ | March 5, 2014 | Brandon Arnold

Posted on 03/05/2014 9:39:27 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/05/2014 9:39:27 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Whatever Leftists dislike, they ban.
Whatever Leftists approve of, they make mandatory.


2 posted on 03/05/2014 9:47:13 AM PST by servo1969
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To: Kaslin
Instead, they’re fuming about a few actors using electronic cigarettes during the award show broadcast.

How thoughtless and inconsiderate these Hollywood elites can be !!!!

If they wanted to smoke without getting democrat pussies all upset they could have just burned a few doobies or fired up their crack pipes.


3 posted on 03/05/2014 9:49:16 AM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Kaslin

the fact is these are the best solution the anti-smoking folks have dreamed of, but because govt isn’ygetting tobacco taxes off them andthe anti-smoking groups aren’ t getying money fom them, they oppose the solution they said they have bee wanting for decades.

proves a lot about the cancer groups and the anti-smoking groups, and government.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 9:51:20 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kaslin

Nicotine suppositories. That’s got to be the next big trend.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 9:51:44 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Kaslin

Wait a minute. If nicotine addicts can sit there and use their drug of choice without consequences, even at work, what about everyone else?

I might like a shot of Jack now and then at work.

Can we all use our drug of choice whenever we want?

:-)


6 posted on 03/05/2014 9:59:46 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“Nicotine suppositories. That’s got to be the next big trend.”

Brandy inhalers.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 10:00:17 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Kaslin

I work in a government building which has already banned e-cigs but that doesn’t really upset me as “lighting one up” in your cubicle is probably as inappropriate as coming in each day reeking of cologne.

I wouldn’t feel good about someone lighting up e-cigs during a church service or in court, for example. But I have no problem with them being around in social environments like restaurants, bars, parties and, of course, anything outdoors.

My problem with some smokers is they think their right to smoke trumps anyone else’s right not to smell their smoke. That, more than anything, is what pushed smokers outdoors into the cold. Nothing will ever appease the anti-smoking zealots but smoking advocates would be better off finding a happy medium with the rest of us than trying to recapture the 1950s and 60s where even doctors were puffing while seeing their patients.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 10:00:29 AM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Nicotine suppositories. That’s got to be the next big trend.

An old, old joke comes to mind:

Patient: Hey Doc - Those pills you prescribed for me tasted terrible and, for all the good they did, I might as well have shoved them up my a$$.

Doctor: Those weren't pills. They were suppositories.

9 posted on 03/05/2014 10:00:58 AM PST by Bob
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To: Kaslin

I suspect that much of the political opposition to e-cigs has little to do with political affiliation and everything to do with the fact that the tobacco and pharmaceutical giants have been bribing our elected representatives for years and e-cigs are a threat to their business interests.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 10:02:21 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Kaslin

A fairly good article (rare, when dealing with this subject), although I do find it ironic to refer to the patch, nicotine inhalers, Chantix, and the gum as “smoking cessation devices”, since their track record is so poor at actually causing smoking to cease.

I do take issue with the presumption that regulation with respect to minors is an inherently good idea. Sweden’s experience with Snus shows fairly conclusively that access to safer forms of tobacco is the best preventative of youth smoking, and it isn’t even close. It stands to reason that e-Cigs, despite not being a tobacco product, would have a similar effect on youth smoking. Not only is the “gateway” theory blatantly false, there is a preponderance of anecdotal evidence that it is actually the exact opposite — access to products that include nicotine discourage, rather than encourage, progression to more dangerous (and addictive) forms of tobacco.

Before anyone says “but nicotine is addictive”, remember to cite a clinical study showing such a thing. Once again, the anecdotal evidence indicates that nicotine, in and of itself, has no real addictive properties.


11 posted on 03/05/2014 10:08:24 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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Nothing will ever appease the anti-smoking zealots but smoking advocates would be better off finding a happy medium with the rest of us than trying to recapture the 1950s and 60s where even doctors were puffing while seeing their patients.

Nobody expects to recapture the 50s and 60s. With the anti-smoking zealots, though, it's a never-ending series of 'finding a happy medium' (which then leads to the next temporary 'happy medium'):

1. Separate smoking and non-smoking areas in restaurants

2. No smoking at all in restaurants.

3. No smoking in any building except bars.

4. No smoking in bars.

5. No smoking within some number of feet of any door or window.

6. In some cities, no smoking on sidewalks, open air parks, and beaches.

What's next?

12 posted on 03/05/2014 10:10:25 AM PST by Bob
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To: Mears

bfl


13 posted on 03/05/2014 10:12:18 AM PST by Mears
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To: ltc8k6

“Can we all use our drug of choice whenever we want?”

As long as it doesn’t impact your operation of a motor vehicle, which nicotine does not.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 10:13:26 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Bob

I saw a great cartoon once that showed a couple in a restaurant complaining to the waiter the the people at the next table were TALKING about smoking.

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15 posted on 03/05/2014 10:17:46 AM PST by Mears (talking)
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To: OrangeHoof
smoking advocates would be better off finding a happy medium with the rest of us

They did but it was all about the rest of you in the first place.

Evidence the first compromise with the nico nazis, the smokers were sent to the back of the plane.

Then they prevented from smoking on the plan. Then they were prevented from smoking in the terminal. Then they were banned from smoking within a hundred feet of the terminal.

The compromises continued with the continued demands of the nico nazis...........so when you suggest that the smoking advocates need to reach a "happy medium" just to appease the rest of you, there isn't any and you the rest of you have proven that time and time and time and time again..........

16 posted on 03/05/2014 10:17:49 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Kaslin; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Mears; metesky; Madame Dufarge; libertarian27; Eric Blair 2084

They’re not getting their cut...............because the e-cigs are putting a dent in collection of tobacco taxes.

Nanny state ping


17 posted on 03/05/2014 10:18:43 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Smoking outside is the happy medium, but that’s not good enough for smoke nazis claiming that that bit of exposure is going to harm them.

An expectation of never smelling it is unreasonable just like an expectation of being exposed to speech you find offensive is.

And folks right to say something does NOT end at your ears.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 10:18:43 AM PST by fruser1
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“What’s next?”

It’s actually worse depending on where you are in the country. There have been efforts w/varying degrees of success to:

-allow employers not hire smokers, even if not smoking on the job

-have condominiums where smokers cannot smoke within their own units

-disallow parents from smoking in the car if children are present.

So let’s see, it’s not just keeping smoking confined to smaller and smaller areas, it’s about denying them employment, housing, and the right to a family.

Sounds pretty nazi to me. I’m just surprised they haven’t started bulldozing the bodies of smokers into mass graves yet.

THAT’s what would be next.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 10:23:11 AM PST by fruser1
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“...fuming about a few actors using electronic cigarettes during the award show broadcast...”

They complained about e-Cigarettes, but nothing else about the Hollywood weirdo whackjobs? A constant freakshow parade of perverts, drug addicts, etc. is all good. But e-cigarettes is just waaaaay too much to handle?


20 posted on 03/05/2014 10:30:04 AM PST by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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