Posted on 03/04/2014 10:49:19 PM PST by No One Special
INFO BELOW FROM WIKIPEDIA: Andrey Nikolayevich Illarionov (born September 16, 1961) is a Russian libertarian economist and former economic policy advisor to the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin. He currently works as a senior fellow in the Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity at the Cato Institute in Washington, DC.
On April 12, 2000, Illarionov assumed the office of Vladimir Putin's senior economic adviser within the Russian presidential administration and in May 2000 he became the personal representative of the Russian president (sherpa) in the G8. He played an important role in introducing the low 13% flat income tax in Russia[1] in repaying the Russian foreign debt, in creation the petroleum revenues-based Stabilization Fund of the Russian Federation and in bringing Russia's full-fledged membership in the political G8.
On January 3, 2005 Illarionov resigned from his position as presidential representative to the G8.[2] On December 21, 2005, Illarionov declared "This year Russia has become a different country. It is no longer a democratic country. It is no longer a free country".
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Don’t think that is going to happen.
If Putin moves, it will be to consolidate the majority Russian areas in the Southeast, around Donetsk.
Crimea is already a done deal. It’s over there.
UKRAINE IS DONE. Stick a fork in it.
Poland now must mobilize and Turkey also. Then they must start sending in agents into Russia to destroy its pipelines, powergrids, oil fields.....until some shoots Putin.
Simple. Have the billionares of Europe put a bounty on his big head. Half a billion and he’s dead before Monday. Hell we print 2 billion every stinking day, we will pay em back.
Yeah,, lets mobilize Turkey and Poland for war against Nuclear Russia, who after Obama has more ICBMs that we do. And we kick it off by assassinating Putin.
Any other bright ideas?
And just cause I hafta ask, why exactly would we be starting this nuclear war, and why should Turkey want any part of it? It is just that war is fun? I’m fascinated.
PS, for extra credit explain how we supply our troops in Afghanistan when the Russians evict us from the bases they started letting us use after 9/11?
I’m much more worried about the 30 million Mexicans who have invaded America, than I am about Russia reinforcing its Crimean bases that they have had since they were sailing in tall ships,,,, with sails.
Ukraine hasn’t died yet.
Remove your fork and raise the Trident.
Thank you.
Mexico don’t have nukes.
Turkey is already supplying bodies to muslim terrorists in Russia. Just encourage them more.
This is Cold War II. You fight through proxy. Somebody pays money to the sniper who takes Putin’s head off. The sniper is then killed and found to be a gay Russian sailor. Whatever.
I don’t like 30 million illegals either. But they don’t have a President like Putin who is losing his damn mind with his pockets full of nukes. He now is accusing Poland of being behind the revolt in Ukraine....and now Poland has called an emergency meeting of NATO. The next step? Run away and turn your back and hide your head in the sand?
Not
Yeahhhhh, I remember when I had my first beer.
Why?
What’s in it for Russia?
Occupying an entire country is no small task.
Especially one that is nearly bankrupt.
Poland was behind it, but mostly it was us and the EU. Our own ambassador admitted she spent 5 BILLION on it. Hell there are photos of her handing out cookies to the protesters. There are photos of the senile fool McCain backslapping with an honest to god Nazi leader in the Maidan.
And we are pretending that this movement sprung up fully formed and equipped, complete with giant tents and outdoor sound systems, stages, etc,,, all on their own.
Its pure silliness to think that Obama, Kerry, McCain and the EU suddenly were on the side of freedom. It’s even sillier to think that Russia won’t respond to a Nazi dominated government in Kiev by securing historically Russian areas in east Ukraine and in Crimea. They have a real history with Nazis and do not regard them as warmly as parts of Europe and DC do.
No, around 250 years ago it was part of the Ottoman Empire.
Thanks. I just went to Wikipedia with UKRAINE. Wow!
What a history of wars. You might enjoy.
Read the title and immediately thought the thread was a continuation of the morning series of flashback FR threads on WW-II. Only the dates didn’t match when I got here.
Russian will not do a darn thing.
Putin has created a tarbaby for himself. The more he gets mired in the Ukraine, the worse for Russia on many, many fronts from international finance to oil and gas pricing to any number of things in retaliation across the board that won’t be military.
He’s in a mess, no doubt about that.
1. Ukraine falls, the world dithers, and Russia is clearly the new world superpower
2. Israel, betrayed by the US, attacks Iranian nuclear facilities
3. The Islamic nations surrounding Israel attack, including Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt.
4. This is the Psalm 83 War, and Israel prevails over its neighbors, greatly expands her borders, and becomes a world power
5. Russia, after a time, leads the nations of Ezekiel 38 and 39 to war against Israel
I am no fan of Putin.
But I am not sure who the Ukraine is better off associating with, the EU or Putin. Both are very bad options. Neither has a path to freedom.
Vlad is crazy. And associates with some very bad people, ChiComs, Iranians, Syrians, etc.
But the EU embrace of Ukraine is also the kiss of death. Death by Socialism. End of Freedom.
But there is no cavalry coming to the rescue. Obozo is the kiss of death too.
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