A Solution to Gay Wedding Cakes [Turn About's Fair Play]

Canada Free Press ^ | March 4, 2014 | Jonathon Moseley

[Moseley]

There is one sure-fire way to stop any particular dumb idea being pushed by liberals. Whatever the topic, it is almost guaranteed.

Simply turn it around and apply any liberal proposal or regulation to liberals. You will watch any dumb idea disappear or crazy law be repealed so fast you won’t know what happened. That’s what happened to the Independent Counsel law. As soon as Republicans started using it against Democrats, specifically Bill Clinton, abruptly Democrats fell out of love with the law and let it lapse when it was up for renewal.

Liberals live in a world of double standards. So if you force them to live by their latest hair-brain scheme, they will drop it like a hot potato. Liberals won’t ever admit they were wrong. But they will forget all about it.

Now, liberals want to force conservative and Christian bakers to make wedding cakes for gay weddings, photographers to cover the wedding, florists to decorate it, etc. And now at last – if anyone didn’t already figure it out – the real purpose of the push for homosexual weddings is unmasked. The gay marriage issue is only about left-wing fascism.

Yet the solution is surprisingly easy. All across the nation, we need conservative activists with a little funds to launch the following campaign:

(1) Search for left-leaning or homosexual-wedding-friendly bakeries, florists, photographers, etc.

[Moseley]

While I am sympathetic with the tone of the article, there is settled case law that basically states if you open your doors to the public, that means all the public

No, that is incorrect. That is what the news media is trying to tell you these days.

But the principle you state only applies to ESSENTIAL SERVICES -- a "public accommodation."

Not all businesses are essential services, like buses, trains, inns (from when they were rare, not plentiful).

[V K Lee]

Believe the answer was read at this site. Have a couple of Lesbians go into a muslim barber and ask for a hair cut. That should bring things into perspective. It might be a bit spooky....pointed, sharp objects in the hands of extremists but it might be the solution.

[Moseley]

If I consider Islam to be an abomination ... can I refuse to make a cake for some Islamic holiday? (serious question)

No, absolutely you may NOT refuse -- under the approach now being pushed by liberals. Traditionally, yes. But not according to their arguments. You are not free to disrespect Islam.

Only Jesus Christ can be disrespected.

[workerbee]

anyone should have a right to refuse to do business with anyone else, i.e., freedom of contract. A contract, I was always taught, is not legally binding unless both parties freely enter into the contract. One or the other can't be coerced, etc., or it's not legally binding. But today the law does not seem to matter much to government; they do as they will.

^^^THIS^^^

[Moseley]

I own a Bakery.... There isn’t a “gay” only bakery that I know of... Nor a bakery that won’t convey a Christian message.

The proposal does not involve a Gay ONLY bakery. That isn't what my article says.

The proposal is for a gay-wedding-FRIENDLY bakery -- that is they are advertising such -- or any liberal-run bakery.

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Instead of focusing the attack on the law or culture, mount an almost ineffective attack on bakeries....

No. First, it is by no means an attack on bakeries. Most bakeries will cheerfully make a Second Amendment cake or Global Warming is a Hoax Cake or Children need a mother and a father cake.

The only bakeries affected are those run by doctrinaire liberals who are so off the charts that they will refuse to bake a cake with a scripture on it.

Remember: This is a holy war by liberals to reshape society. Liberals are not going to tolerate cakes with scriptures on them "You must be born again."

This is not about gays. This is about liberals fundamentally transforming society.

Second, you missed the main point of the article. As soon as you require liberals to make conservative cakes, they will drop the entire project faster than you can say "What happened?"

The entire issue will vanish as soon as they realize that the same rule will be applied to them.

So this IS focusing the attack on the law and the culture.

[workerbee]

do these same bakers ... refuse to bake cakes for hetrosexual couples living together? I am just curious if they take a consistent moral stand or only one in the case of this particular sin.

I don't care. That's the particular conscience of said bakers to concern themselves with. What I care about is that one person decides he/she doesn't want to supply someone else the use of his talent -- for WHATever reason. Why on earth should the government step in and FORCE him to do that?

Rush Limbaugh had Elton John sing at his wedding. If Sir Elton had refused to sign a contract because he disagreed with Rush politically -- is it ok for a government entity to force him?

[CityCenter]

How about starting the ceremony by a statement of support for traditional marriage? I think it would be interesting if a gay couple went into a Christian-owned bakery and the owner sat them down and explained all the reasons why s/he object to their wedding. And then at the end of it agree to make the cake. At that point, I seriously doubt the gay couple would want to go forward.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Wouldn’t work. They wouldn’t support, the people trying would be labeled as bigots or worse, and the courts would back them up.

Note that two music groups cancelled contracts with the Boy scouts, deciding they didn’t like the BSA gay stance, and nobody went to court to FORCE them to provide services without regard to political viewpoint.

[Tanniker Smith]

Why would heterosexual couples living together need a wedding cake? And if they ordered, who would know that they were just living together?

It's not the fact that they're making a cake for a gay client. It's that they'd have to participate in the gay "nuptials" that they find objectionable.

[nevergore]

"Remember: This is a holy war by liberals to reshape society. Liberals are not going to tolerate cakes with scriptures on them "You must be born again." This statement illustrates the fundamental flaw in logic....The liberals aren't concerned with a religious message as long as their message is pushed....

[kvanbrunt2]

You can do that. but i wouldn’t actually eat anything prepared by them. i have John 3:16 in Aramaic. used to be on my door. looks like a piece of the kooorrrannn.

[sauropod]

Seems to me it was a SCOTUS case.

I don’t think you are correct (even though I agree with your sentiment.)

[Tired of Taxes]

Remember this case a few years ago?

A grocery story didn’t want to put a little boy’s name - “Adolph Hitler” - on a birthday cake:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/12/17/little-adolf-hitler-denied-birthday-cake-at-new-jersey-grocery-store/

Probably almost everyone - conservative, liberal, whatever - agreed that the store had the right to refuse.

[Tired of Taxes]

Oops - I meant “Adolf”.

[Moseley]

"Remember: This is a holy war by liberals to reshape society. Liberals are not going to tolerate cakes with scriptures on them "You must be born again." This statement illustrates the fundamental flaw in logic....The liberals aren't concerned with a religious message as long as their message is pushed....

That is incorrect. The suppression of traditional messages and traditional religious concepts IS part of the liberal message. Liberals are not simply interested in spreading a message of their own, but in silencing traditional American culture and erasing all messages contrary to their own.

[Gene Eric]

>> Liberals are not simply interested in spreading a message of their own, but in silencing traditional

It’s actually the Leftists that desire to destroy the foundation of America. The Liberals are too ignorant believing it’s what they want.

[nevergore]

I agree that we disagree on this point....

The bulk of liberals are not silencing.... There is a small group of very vocal group of liberal loons that may support your assertion however I contend the bulk do not......

We will NEVER convince those loons...they are Pavlovian in their thought....

But we can penetrate a substantial number of liberals with a conservative philosophy over time.... We don’t need a lot, just enough to grab and hold a majority....then we dictate the rules....

Aim for the loons with “over the top” responses and you will alienate the more “moderate” liberals....

We will never win over all of them but we don’t have to....