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4 Reasons Putin Is Already Losing in Ukraine
TIME ^ | 03/04/2014 | Simon Shuster

Posted on 03/04/2014 8:16:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: DonaldC

Yeah. Isolationism worked soooo well before the last two world wars.

Let’s do it again.

Maybe we can even get a good Youtube of John F-in’ Kerry getting off an airplane waving a piece of paper and declaring “Peace for our time”?


21 posted on 03/04/2014 8:31:05 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: marron
The only paragraph in the whole article which actually made sense:

And what about the upside for Putin? There doesn’t seem to be much of it, at least not compared with the damage he stands to inflict on Russia and himself. But he does look set to accomplish a few things. For one, he demonstrates to the world that his redlines, unlike those of the White House, cannot be crossed.

22 posted on 03/04/2014 8:31:14 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Samogon
I think you meant .... After the invasion is over, there is no doubt that the western half of Ukraine will join NATO.
23 posted on 03/04/2014 8:32:19 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Dammit! Now I have to replace the TWT in my gaydar!


24 posted on 03/04/2014 8:32:27 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Should Russia react to the overthrow of the legally elected authorities in Ukraine?”

How about asking the Russian citizenry:
"In view of the turmoil in Ukraine, should Russia secure the Crimea to continue to allow Russian ships access to the seas? - Tom

25 posted on 03/04/2014 8:33:13 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Both halves. And then some: there are Ukrainian lands still occupied by Russia... Putin loses this war, which may lead to Russia’s disintegration.


26 posted on 03/04/2014 8:37:43 AM PST by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Samogon

After the invasion is over, there is no doubt that Ukraine will join NATO. If there was a toss-up among public - all doubts removed now.


The current EU and NATO cheese eating leadership won’t want Ukraine now that Putin has shown he will roll tanks on his neighbors.


27 posted on 03/04/2014 8:37:49 AM PST by lodi90
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To: null and void

Who will loan us the money?


28 posted on 03/04/2014 8:39:45 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: SeekAndFind

1. Because when you get what you want, that’s losing.
2. Obama defriended that loser Putin on facebook.
3. Palin said he would do this in 2008. If you do as she predicted you have lost. Except death panels.
4. Mooshell is going on an extravagant shopping junket to China. That proves Putin has lost somehow.

I can’t get a job writing for Time because my goofy four points stand up to scrutiny better than their goofy four points. And I’m not a socialist.


29 posted on 03/04/2014 8:40:24 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: null and void

So far there appears absolutely no will to punish Russia economically for Putin’s Crimean adventure. Putin correctly predicted that the western banksters won’t want to lose their cut of Russian thievery. The globalists are happy with a new USSR 2.0 as long as they can do business with it. I find that ironic considering all the Soros Derangement Syndrome going around.


30 posted on 03/04/2014 8:42:00 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Samogon
After the invasion is over, there is no doubt that Ukraine will join NATO.

Why would NATO accept them, now? It already turned them down, along with Georgia, once. This was about three months before Russia's invasion of Georgia; when membership was endorsed by Bush II. Both countries were left hanging by NATO. Both have been ravaged by the Russian bear, because of it.

31 posted on 03/04/2014 8:43:29 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: null and void

The US public could not stomach a war against a panty waste country like Afghanistan. They will never take the costs of a war with a real country. Plus, we’re broke and can’t afford it and have a lack of manufacturing capacity for war material anyway. What concerns me more though is our gov has not fought a war to win in my life time, just police actions after police actions. With DCs culture of weakness, if we go thumping Russia or China, we could very well be flying their flag in a few years as they smell the weakness and are in it to win.


32 posted on 03/04/2014 8:45:41 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Samogon

I say Ukraine will be partitioned along ethnic and language lines. The way I see it that process is already well underway. We’ll see.


33 posted on 03/04/2014 8:46:30 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

This war is actually turns out to be a great consolidating factor: there are huge lines of volunteers at Ukrainian Army registration offices in Eastern and Southern cities. Russians tried very hard to divide Ukraine, but helped uniting it - isn’t this ironic?


34 posted on 03/04/2014 8:53:19 AM PST by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If he had Obama advising him he’d rule the world!!! Right TIME?


35 posted on 03/04/2014 8:55:16 AM PST by albie
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To: Samogon

One swallow doesn’t make a spring. Let’s wait and see.


36 posted on 03/04/2014 8:55:39 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Samogon

“After the invasion is over, there is no doubt that Ukraine will join NATO. If there was a toss-up among public - all doubts removed now.”

Well, it remains to be seen just when the invasion will “be over”, and what the end-state will be. It’s possible that Russia will partition the Ukraine by taking the Crimea, go for the entire enchilada, or something in-between.

It’s hard to predict what might happen until we know where Putin is prepared to stop.


37 posted on 03/04/2014 8:55:48 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: SeekAndFind

It is incredibly cheap bird cage liner at $20 per year or so . . . which includes some “made in China” premium worth more than half of the $20.


38 posted on 03/04/2014 8:56:21 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Samogon
After the invasion is over, there is no doubt that Ukraine will join NATO. If there was a toss-up among public - all doubts removed now.

Post of the Day!

Yes, indeed: Regardless of the military outcome of the Russian "intervention" - win, draw, or lose - it will push the Ukraine farther into the arms of the West.

Regards,

39 posted on 03/04/2014 8:56:41 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Tallguy

You still are going to have Russian enclaves all over the country.

Keep an eye on Odessa.


40 posted on 03/04/2014 8:56:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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