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To: Grzegorz 246
So supporting mujahedins fighting against Soviets was a bad idea ?

History shows that to have been a horrible idea as some of the CIA trained and armed Islamic radical members would later form Al Qeada and attack the US on 911. And the US has just learned the hard way that Afghanistan is not worth fighting over. You either have morals and principals or you don't. Would have been strategically better to let the Soviet bear bleed for 2 to 3 decades trying to control that wasteland.

59 posted on 03/03/2014 10:40:12 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape
“CIA trained and armed Islamic radical members would later form Al Qeada and attack the US on 911.”

Rather few of them really and that's mainly due to redistribution of aid and recruitment being largely delegated to Pakistani secret services. Massud, the most famous anti-Soviet commander and later a leader of Northern Allliance, was killed by Al Qeada two days before 9/11. Mujahedins contributed greatly to the fall of the Soviet Union, overall supporting them was a very good idea.

“You either have morals and principals or you don't.”

So having morals mean supporting Putin acting like Hitler in 38 over Ukrainians because a small minority of them don't like Jews ? You are falling for Russian propaganda too easily. I guess you would have supported Hitler's take over of Suddetenland, some of his arguments sounded rational back then too and Czech weren't all that perfect.

Ukraine right now is an absolutely critical issue. We are several steps away from WW3. Some anti-semitic clowns are 3rd rate problem at the moment.

60 posted on 03/03/2014 12:07:12 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: justa-hairyape
History shows that to have been a horrible idea as some of the CIA trained and armed Islamic radical members would later form Al Qeada and attack the US on 911. And the US has just learned the hard way that Afghanistan is not worth fighting over. You either have morals and principals or you don't. Would have been strategically better to let the Soviet bear bleed for 2 to 3 decades trying to control that wasteland.

History shows that supporting the Russians against the Nazis was a terrible idea, since they went on to enslave Central Europe for over 4 decades, killing millions of "class enemies". Note that the Russians made WWII possible by giving the Nazis a secure eastern flank via the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact. In that respect, they were partially responsible for 400K GI deaths in WWII. After WWII, the Russians were responsible for 100K GI deaths via their financial and material support for Chinese, Korean and Vietnamese communists who would have been crushed without that assistance. North Koreans and all of Vietnam are still paying the price for Russian perfidy. Compared to the Russians, al Qaeda are a bunch of choir boys. Add up all the direct and indirect US casualties from Muslim attacks, and it's less than 20K. Do that for Russian back-stabbing, and it's 500K.

62 posted on 03/03/2014 3:55:59 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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