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1 posted on 03/01/2014 4:31:40 PM PST by grundle
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Obamacare will “fix” all medical advancement and research that comes from the United States.
2 posted on 03/01/2014 4:37:14 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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Pretty crappy reason to dislike Obamacare. We’ve been, according to this article, subsidizing the world’s drug supply with our tax dollars and insurance premiums. Now they’re whining that our subsidy will be gone and that’s going to affect us as well as them. Tough. Let the socialized medicine countries help foot the bill for the drugs.


3 posted on 03/01/2014 4:37:17 PM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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this “Fundamental Transformation” of america has GOT to stop NOW!


4 posted on 03/01/2014 4:40:33 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (how many times has obie fundamentaly transformed obamacare now?)
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To: grundle

It’s partly true.

There will still be innovation where the government hasn’t figured out how to pressure the market with generics (biologic drugs), or there are politically powerful patient advocacy groups (e.g. oncology, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s).

Yes, the US health system will become more like Europe’s regardless of whether Obamacare is repealed.

The question is whether we become like the Netherlands (pretty good), or like the UK or Poland (can you say “snuff party”?)


5 posted on 03/01/2014 4:42:42 PM PST by oblomov
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Stories like this make me quite angry. I have an illness that will worsen as time moves on. I’ve read about some promising things on the horizon, but Obamacare is going to put one hell of a chasm between here and the horizon.


7 posted on 03/01/2014 4:57:43 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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“Before acid inhibitors, ulcer sufferers had only operations that cut off ulcerated portions of their stomachs”

I owe my life to Zantac. I could drink 4 bottles of Maalox/Mylanta and it wouldn’t touch it.


9 posted on 03/01/2014 5:04:20 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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The average drug in the USA takes 11 years of clinical trials and 1.2 BILLION dollars —just one drug.

If it turns out it might help other diseases also, it must be re-tested for that other disease.

Because the documentation process is so very rigorous many other countries simply accept the judgements of the FDA.

Obamcare might sink ALL these other countries.


11 posted on 03/01/2014 5:07:29 PM PST by gaijin
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Bump


13 posted on 03/01/2014 5:16:01 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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IU have been saying this for years. Socialism in the last market medical economy will end research. Governments won't pay for it. Medical research competes for funds with defense and highways and pocket-lining and welfare and unemployment compensation and et al etc. The leftists who are doing it to us do not understand is that research that is required to keep antibiotics up to date and functional is part of that research tat will end. Up until now all medical research in the world has been for the American Market because all other advanced countries have socialized medicine and will not pay for that research. That is why new patented đrugs are so astronomically expensive in the US. The American population has had to absorb the cost of research without help from the rest of the world. Once antibiotic research ends it is only a matter of a few years until the US is medically back to 1910- you get sick, you die.
15 posted on 03/01/2014 5:19:15 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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“the president’s specific words: I’m “really good at killing people,” authors Mark Halperin and John Heilemann write”


18 posted on 03/01/2014 5:32:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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Many of the same drugs are made by the same companies in other countries. The drug companies thank you for helping the more equal consituents by supporting poor, “developing” countries when paying the highest prices by far. A special thanks to those of you not employed by government offices or global corporations: those of you who’ve been buying the drugs with your own money for all of these years.


19 posted on 03/01/2014 5:48:35 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Medicine and drug companies have been bathing with pathological special interests in socialism for a long time, BTW. A true free market would be a much better start. Give the doctor $25 and a bottle of whiskey. Bite down on the stick, while he fixes you up.


20 posted on 03/01/2014 5:56:46 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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the rest of the world will lose along with Americans.

So everybody loses. Americans lose the most because only prices are rising. Another political method to bleed Americans of their treasury is all am seeing in this article. Dang these politicians!

21 posted on 03/01/2014 5:58:45 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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This great news comrads. No new drug advances will eliminate the expense of drugs.

Secondly, and most important, Sandra Fluck gets free birth control.


24 posted on 03/01/2014 6:07:32 PM PST by Organic Panic
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I presented a similar argument to some “fellow patients” at my doctor’s office some 20 years ago, when Hillarycare was the topic of the times.

Those other patients pooh-poohed my arguments, but they weren’t thinking about how intrusive government would have to be, and how much the country would be changed by something like Hillarycare.

My predictions are slowly coming true, but with a different name for the same government program.

People who don’t bother to think, or can’t think, are what’s ruined this country.


26 posted on 03/01/2014 7:29:41 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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The “dinosaur” that we rarely hear about are the drugs that have improved, prolonged, and changed our lives...what we do hear about is how medical costs are not rising as quickly under Obamacare as they used to - precisely because money is not going into these new developments as it used to - complaining that medical costs are so much more than they were a few years ago is like going to buy a Cadillac and complaining because it costs so much more than the Chevy you bought in 2010.....
27 posted on 03/01/2014 9:05:05 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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