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To: Ivan Mazepa

“This is straight out of Kremlin propaganda book”

THIS comes straight from Jewish Telegraphic Agency and The World Jewish Congress !

“World Jewish Congress President Ronald Lauder in a referenced a recent ceremony near Lviv marking the 70th anniversary of the creation of the Galician division of the Waffen SS, in which Ukrainians fought on the side of Nazi Germany.

“I was horrified to see photographs of young Ukrainians wearing the dreaded SS uniform with swastikas clearly visible on their helmets as they carried the caskets of members of the Galician division of the Waffen SS, a Nazi unit, lowered their remains into their new graves, and fired gun salutes in their honor. ”

In late July, Ukrainians wearing SS uniforms were photographed trudging through trenches and firing rifles in a reconstruction of a key battle against the Soviets during World War II. An Orthodox priest led a ceremony for fallen soldiers of the Nazi unit, sprinkling his blessing over several men sporting swastikas who lowered a coffin in a ritual reburial.

Some 800,000 Jews were murdered during the Holocaust in what is now Ukrainian territory. They were killed by German troops and Ukrainian auxiliaries who gathered the Jews, guarded them, and in many instances participated in their killing, according to the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem.

Stop your bull..t. The ukrainian national-socialist party (10.4% votes in 2012, 36 seats in parliment), which was rebaptized “svoboda”, is openly antisemitic.

From International Business Times:
http://www.ibtimes.com/euromaidan-dark-shadows-far-right-ukraine-protests-1556654


80 posted on 02/26/2014 9:40:14 PM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite; Ivan Mazepa
You are the one who keeps bullshitting.

All this Kremlin-line "selective memory" you keep bringing here, along with the worst of the worst of allegations against the Ukrainian nationalists for daring to desire being freer of Moscow.

Why not pick on the Romanians for marching with the Nazis against the Red Army, before later turning on the Nazis (after losing several Romanian divisions at Stalingrad, etc.)

How well do you know the history of that region? What of the Russian civil war that went on for years? The Whites against the Reds, the Blacks against anybody? What of the atrocities committed in all that fighting?

Payback is a real bitch when fueled by hatreds. But now you pick the Russian side of things in the Ukraine and most anywhere else too. Uh-huh. Meanwhile, Russia is one of the nations which has political prisoners. Along with China, Iran, Syria...who else? They can't handle dissenters too well.

Straight out of the Kremlim propaganda book is right. I just can't tell if you (Marguerite) are doing so by default, or if you have been sent to stir up confusion.

Good luck to you Ivan. I do hope Ukraine can find ways to peaceably continue building their own nation, including Russian speaking Ukraine citizens as one nation, with everyone finding ways to do business with all their neighbors, both West and East.

81 posted on 02/26/2014 11:13:08 PM PST by BlueDragon (Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.Proverbs 29:18)
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To: Marguerite

A page out of the Kremlin propaganda book in the 70s was to go to a drug infested part of an American city and call it USA. From this, the audience was to make a conclusion that US is nothing more than crumbling infrastructure, race riots and decaying western capitalism.

Similarly today, the same book tries to paint a popular revolt against a tyrant by Jews and non-Jews alike as “nazi”. Jews were standing shoulder to shoulder with those “nazis” on Maidan, but here you are, saying that you know better, that you know something they don’t.


82 posted on 02/27/2014 7:19:14 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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