Posted on 02/20/2014 9:33:21 AM PST by Kaslin
Oh, but they are — one definition of conservative is to keep things the same, and everything shows that they are just fine with their positions and lack of accountability and wish to keep it that way.
BTTT.
I’ve been preaching that for quite a while, but no one seems to want to listen.
To reach the 'great middle', you must establish a positive difference between yourself and your opponent. For years, through constant caving, denial of principles and weak candidates, the Republican Party has failed to do this. Compromising yet again with people who have conclusively shown they stand for nothing does not advance the conservative agenda we simply must have if we are to save the country.
The Tea Party won some signicant battles in 2010 and 2012 and how we’re we rewarded? Did the GOP turn right? No, they’ve adopted a surrender and retreat policy and have visciously attacked the Tea Party in general and guys like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee in particular.
This @$$#0£€ is pimping for Ryan because Ryan is pimping for the turncoat McConnell. Ryan has joined the opposition on amnesty and this guy thinks Ryan is an example of how we can win elections.
If you don’t like “purity” and you think appeasement is the road to victory and Liberty, then you and your ilk do not have a home at Free Republic.
We need to get rid if the Quislings and if we have to ruffle some feathers to do it, then lets get it done.
McConnell and Boehner have to be stripped of their leadership roles. We can’t fight a war with an army full of cowards at the helm.
Very well said
Let’s look at the reality of elections at our moment in time.
First, we have primary elections. These are designed to accomplish: (1) giving party members their chance to vote up or down on their current office holder, and (2) giving party members their chance to show their preferred candidate. .
Second, we have general elections. These are designed to pit the various candidates of the various parties against one another.
While I can think of a number of ways to change the current primary system for the better, that isn’t my purpose at this point.
I simply want to say that even the barest suggestion that we not use the primary election as designed, to vote up or down on the current office holder, is a contradiction to the system that’s established.
Could they possibly be asking in these recent articles that we NOT primary unworthy current elected officials when that is the very purpose of the system that we have?
Are they asking us to tell our principles to go to hell at the one point in the system where they’re supposed to be in the forefront?
Make `em choke on Amnesty — link.
All we need is a governor with some balls.
And what goals that will “inch us closer to a free republic” are the backstabbers willing to support? Stopping the madness with debt and spending? Sending all invaders out of the US, for good? Stop supporting wars that might benefit the elitist globalist agenda, but not US citizens? Stop funding Obamacare? EVerify? Bring jobs back to the US?
If they can’t support us on the core issues of budget/debt and the invasion of the US, what do we gain?
Move aside the trees and see the forest. Why would we support back stabbers? That would be a suicidal “compromise.” No one here is saying hang with McConnell and boner and mclame.
The article is about how people on the ACTUAL RIGHT don’t strategize. We don’t all agree on the ultimate goal. We don’t have small ways to get closer. This would get us there.
THE ARTICLE IS NOT ABOUT SUPPORTING RINOS. Please understand that the article is about exactly what is happening on this thread. Conservatives choosing to fight each other rather than to coalesce on a main goal and strategize on how exactly to get there.
It might indeed have meant coalescing around a presidential candidate who wasn’t perfect and getting him elected. But it never means, NEVER, that we support politicians in office who clearly don’t have the same goal as we. IT WOULD INSTEAD MEAN THAT WE INFORM HIS CONSTITUENTS SO THEY CAN VOTE HIM OUT.
Amnesty pushers can go straight to hell!!
Purism doesn’t get us even incrementally closer to our goals
And yet how many people would have voted for even Ron Paul over Mr. Obama-clone Romney?
Seriously, having some standard and saying "that's unacceptable" is not purism — after the throwing for McCain in 2008 (to my everlasting shame), I promised that I'd never again vote based on the other guy's worse
, which is why I didn't vote Romney: the man gave me nothing that I could say I'll vote for him
about precisely because he's virtually the same as Obama.
That's what socons were expected to do last election.
You really hate socons, don't you? We wreck everything =P
Anyways I only vote for conservatives. I blame the business as usual crowd for the sad state of affairs we have today.
I hadn’t thought of it that way, but that is true. And those whom you are describing are on both sides of the aisle. My extremely conservative die hard republican grandfather once turned to me and complained that Medicare didn’t cover all his medical bills. This just stunned me at the time. But he, even he, reading 500+ conservative history or bio books each week, was part of that generation and the New Deal paradigm so deeply into his brain structure that he was unaware of any other.
Thanks.
Well, what we are doing in KY, is busting our asses to get rid of McConnell (a liar, collaborator and a Democrat stooge) and get a conservative that represents us..
Problem that keeps coming up in these situations is that the GOP is hell bent on destroying a legitimate candidate (Bevin) in the primary because he is conservative. The Republican party leadership should not be spending our resources to deny the people of KY a choice in their Republican candidate. And that is exactly what they are doing. The people should chose our nominee and the party should then back him to the hilt. That never happens with the GOP.
Now, what I and others are saying is we can no longer be subjected to this and then go to the polls and vote for the very people that used the party machine to deny us our voice. What is usually referred to as voting for the lessor of two evils. For a number of reasons, I no longer consider Mitch McConnell the lessor of two evils. Electing him nets the same results. We are just lulled into believing that we are better off.
All we can do is fight the good fight. The reality is that there is so little time left to save the Republic, I just don’t see incrementalism as a realistic option.
Sigh. I have to get back to my work.
People don't understand we can't govern this country from the House. Retake the Senate and we have much more leverage. Then retake the White House and we can start undoing the damage Obama did.
I sincerely wish they'd just join up with the democrats. I'd prefer a principled small party to a traitorous large one.
There's always an itch between your shoulder blades with this GOP.
We aren’t “winning” now. Maybe a different strategy is in order. Nes pas?
Ryan is a turncoat! FUPR!!
Are they asking us to tell our principles to go to hell at the one point in the system where they’re supposed to be in the forefront?
Yes, they are.
We're advised to ignore the cancer in the hope that it won't metastasize.
Primaries provide a means to excise the disease.
The current leadership of boehner & mcconnell will never pull the GOP together, especially when they take potshots at the base.
Together they have engendered a lot of annimosity and if somehow they manage to get reelected they would be WORSE than a dhimmicrat holding that place.
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