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How 185 Million Barrels of Oil Can Simply Vanish
DailyFinance ^ | Feb 17th 2014 | Matt DiLallo

Posted on 02/18/2014 4:46:49 AM PST by thackney

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To: G Larry

Why hasn’t that been proposed already? Because it is politically untenable. You have to win not just the vote in Congress, but the President’s signature and likely a judge’s ruling at some point in the process.

You don’t get there by fiat or whim. It will take a long term campaign to change minds, just like on abortion and guns.


21 posted on 02/18/2014 3:55:53 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BlueDragon

From 726,542,000 barrels mid 2011 to 695,969,000 now.

History since 1982:
Weekly U.S. Ending Stocks of Crude Oil in SPR
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W


22 posted on 02/18/2014 4:10:16 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: 1010RD

I totally disagree.

Nixon created the EPA via Executive Order.

President Cruz can abolish it just as easily.


23 posted on 02/18/2014 4:22:28 PM PST by G Larry
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To: thackney
Thank you, sir. Forgive me for creating work, having to spend the time to find the link, code it, post it and the rest.

I knew you would know where to zero in, so my continuing thanks to you for bringing to us here all which you have done, for years now.

24 posted on 02/18/2014 5:21:43 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: G Larry

Nonsense. We’re not avatars in some MMOG. There isn’t the political will to do it. It would be the last act of his Presidency.

It will take time, subtlety and compromise to get us where we want to go. There isn’t any superman, that’s dreamworld stuff. Reality is that it will be a long and bloody slog, uphill all the way, but if we hold Congress for a generation we’ll get there. The signs are already in place.


25 posted on 02/18/2014 6:53:26 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Try reading my post #19 again.

The President makes that repeated assertion about the over reach of the EPA.

It is NOT an impeachable offense.

It is the Job FIx the economy needs.

Noe of the rules imposed since 2008 have improved the quality of anything.


26 posted on 02/18/2014 7:19:42 PM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry

I’m not arguing in favor of the EPA’s overreach and overregulation. But, we have tens of thousands of graduates of our very best government schools who are trained enviros. They’re not going to sit tight while conservatives “destroy the environment”.

That said, we can moderate the worst laws, modify the regulations and settle court cases that tie the EPAs hands without setting off terrible alarms. Democrats get away with it because they have a capon media. We can’t, so we must be wise as serpents and gentle as lambs.


27 posted on 02/18/2014 7:33:47 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I understand your point.

I’m simply tired of tip toeing around the liberals.

If the President stands up repeatedly and makes the case I did in Post #19, there’s NOTHING “they” can do about it.

He defends his position by stating:

“I don’t care about the emotional nonsense the left is promoting.
Our air and water has been sufficiently clean for a long time, and NONE of the laws passed in the last 10 years have improved that case.


28 posted on 02/18/2014 7:42:24 PM PST by G Larry
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To: Irishguy

http://www.resilience.org/resource-detail/1789950-snake-oil-how-fracking-s-false-promise


29 posted on 02/18/2014 8:36:57 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: G Larry

I understand your frustration and it’s easy to vent here on FR. My point is that we didn’t get here overnight. Liberals took a century to get where we are today.

I think we can get back in 25 years or less, but to do it we need to:
1. reach out to minorities and Millenials using logic, clarity and gentleness. People are emotional and confrontation rarely works.

2. Hold Congress for a generation or more and that means dealing with RINOs and liberals. There are areas of agreement where we can make real progress.

3. Share our vision in an affirmative way. We have a devil of a time at PR given that liberals have a hundred billion dollar media arm.

The reality is that we’re a minority. We have to sell our ideas to the mushy middle and even to some liberals to get them to move our way and win elections. It all starts with ideas and ends with winning elections. If you don’t win you cannot play.


30 posted on 02/19/2014 6:46:45 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Sometimes patience and subtlety are necessary.

Clipping the EPA’s wings is NOT such a case.

The President can do it instantly, and with a clear, unapologetic message.

31 posted on 02/19/2014 6:56:25 AM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry

Why didn’t Reagan, Bush or GW Bush do it that way then?


32 posted on 02/19/2014 7:42:16 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Under those administrations, the EPA had the appearance of moderating their impact on industry.

Under Obama, its become a blatant hammer to shut down energy, industry, and the economy.

33 posted on 02/19/2014 9:05:02 AM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry

You’re describing the reality under each of those Presidents, not one of which permanently changed or crippled the ability of the EPA to cause harm and abuse against the country.

What I want is the EPA hobbled, limited and eventually wound down and delegated to the states. No President can do that by fiat. You could do that over time via legislation, but you need to capture the mind and beliefs of the voting public first. That takes time and an education. I’d start with West Virginia coal miners and their communities.


34 posted on 02/19/2014 7:30:35 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: biff

“You quit first. I promise to follow!!”

No way! You first. ;)


35 posted on 02/19/2014 9:11:26 PM PST by CowboyJay (Cruz'-ing in 2016!)
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To: 1010RD

“No President can do that by fiat.”

WHY NOT????

Especially after the liberties and precedence this clown has established.

There is no law constraining such action.
Bunch of job killing, paper pushers hit the streets, so the working man can produce energy and goods and services.

How will the corrupt media compete with THAT reality?


36 posted on 02/19/2014 9:48:47 PM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry

“No President can do that by fiat.”

WHY NOT????

Yeah, why not? This super turd on a stick has set the precedence of ruling by fiat with his phone & pen. It will allow the next president to do so as well.
Just just the damn beast down and be done with it.
Let em howl like starving babies.


37 posted on 02/21/2014 11:19:34 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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