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The Atlantic: We may run out of winter for the Winter Olympics (Will Sochi be the last one?)
Hotair ^ | 02/13/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/13/2014 10:49:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Will Sochi be the last Winter Olympics? Has the Earth run out of snow? Readers on the east coast may find this essay from The Atlantic’s Ian Freidman a little ironic today, but he warned just as the snowstorm hit the entire East Coast that global warming was making the Winter Olympics potentially extinct, and that Sochi proves his point:

One of the warmest Winter Olympics in history is getting warmer.

Temperatures reached the low-60s today in Sochi, and they’re expected to stay there on Thursday and Friday. For some perspective, the weather in the coastal resort is now roughly as warm as it was during certaindays of London’s Summer Games in 2012. According to Forecast.io, the average temperature for the Sochi Olympics so far has been 45 degrees Fahrenheit, three degrees lower than the average during the previous Warmest Winter Olympics Ever: the 2010 Vancouver Games. But Sochi’s highs have been higher than Vancouver’s. And Vancouver’s daily average never rose above 50 degrees, while Sochi’s has surpassed that level several times.

All this creates issues. Like mush, which the American snowboarder Shaun White cursedshortly before failing to medal in the relatively cool mountains outside Sochi. Organizers are now compensating for the lack of hard snow with awintery mix of chemicals, water injections, andstrategic snow reserves. Hundreds of snow cannons stand ready in case of emergency.

This week, however, over 100 Olympians, 85 of them American, blamed more than warm weather for the poor conditions. The real culprit, the athletes said in a statement, is climate change—and world leaders better do something about it during climate talks in Paris next year. “Snow conditions are becoming much more inconsistent, weather patterns more erratic, and what was once a topic for discussion is now reality and fact,” U.S. cross-country skier Andrew Newell wrote. “Our climate is changing and we are losing our winters.”

First, let’s start with the inherent assumption that Sochi was a reasonable venue for a Winter Olympics in the first place. It wasn’t, and its selection by the IOC raised eyebrows at the time for this very reason. Russia had to promise that they could keep the slopes snowy in order to win the bid, and so far that’s not been an easy task. While many think Russia is all about snowy winters, especially for those who know the history of large armies marching on Moscow, it might help to see a map of Sochi’s location:

sochi-map

That’s Sochi — at nearly the southernmost part of Russia, on the Black Sea. It’s not Siberia or even Moscow, and it’s not even close. The driving distance between Sochi and Moscow is more than a thousand miles, slightly longer than the distance between Los Angeles and Portland, Oregon. It’s roughly the same latitude as southern France, and well below the latitude of London, which Friedman uses as a comparison.

As a quick piece of research demonstrates, the temperatures noted by Friedman for this Olympiad are in fact the average temperature for Sochi at this time of year. The February average for Sochi is 42.8 degrees, and the average daily high is 49, with a low of 37. That’s a pretty poor choice for a Winter Olympics venue that has to rely on a lot of snow sticking to the ground, let alone falling at all. Even London is colder than Sochi on average (41.5 degrees, hi/lo 46.9/36.1). For that matter, so is the 2010 Winter Olympics venue, Vancouver (40.8 degrees, 46.7/34.8), which as Friedman notes was another head-scratching choice by the IOC.

So yes, if the IOC insists on picking warmer-weather sites for its Winter Olympics, then the games will have trouble with snow. Perhaps they should consider the actual climate of their potential sites before picking them in the future. Given that the IOC selected this site, in a region where violent unrest and terrorism are rampant, I’m not too confident that they’ll make better decisions on any basis in the future.

Update: Just for fun, let’s look at the weather conditions today at the last few venues of the Winter Olympics:

Basically, all of these venues are sticking close to their averages, with Lillehammer the only one skewing warmer by any significance — and it’s still going to snow tonight in Lillehammer.

Also, I forgot to hat-tip John Ekdahl at Ace for the story.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: climate; olympics; sochi; winter
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To: PDGearhead

Give it a few hours! ;-)


61 posted on 02/13/2014 12:45:19 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Its well known that Sochi is the Russian WINTER RESORT! Russians go there to get out of the cold.

Why do winter Olympics in a warm place? My opinion is that they wanted an excuse to build up the place. Their alternative was to “create” a venue in a cold place that had no infrastructure, population, etc. etc., and on and on.

How many olympic sites around the world are now abandoned derelicts? China’s summer spectacle is now a graffiti festooned wasteland. I think those sly Rooskies didn’t want that legacy and wanted to kill 2 birds with one stone.

No insider knowledge, just MHO.

Now, as for the GorBullWarming clowns to point to Sochi, a well known moderated climate city, as an example of winter disappearing, well, stupid is as stupid does. And you just CAN’T fix stupid.


62 posted on 02/13/2014 1:01:57 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
How many olympic sites around the world are now abandoned derelicts? China’s summer spectacle is now a graffiti festooned wasteland.


Olympic village at Sarajevo, site of the 1984 winter games
(not sure when this was taken)

63 posted on 02/13/2014 1:13:25 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: woodbutcher1963

fine by by me. Sucks in the afternoon or at the bottom but, if you go as often as professionals or I do you just get use to it.

Cept if a storm springs up on you after a day of getting wet and it clouds over but, I even then they probably don’t care about it anymore than I.


64 posted on 02/13/2014 2:37:08 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Atlantic: We may run out of winter for the Winter Olympics (Will Sochi be the last one?

Can we assume that all the millions of people shoveling global warming along the Eastern Seaboard as we discuss this article will write The Atlantic and the moron author of the article their thoughts on the matter...?

65 posted on 02/13/2014 3:05:54 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: PDGearhead
"Yes, and as of today, 49 of our 50 states have snow. Florida is the only state without any snow on the ground."

There's snow in Hawaii?!

66 posted on 02/13/2014 4:35:33 PM PST by Waryone
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To: Waryone; PDGearhead

I just found the answer myself. It snowed in the mountains, Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa, back in January during a winter storm. The snow must still be on the ground.


67 posted on 02/13/2014 4:41:43 PM PST by Waryone
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To: Fiji Hill

Just Damn! I forgot all about Sarajevo!

Winter Games there were suppose to bring in all kinds of good stuff to that God forsaken backwash place.

Reinforces my opinion that the Russians thought Sochi through very diligently.

When all the westerners go home and all the grumbling about poor hotels is forgotten, the Russians will have a far more improved winter retreat. All to themselves. Thank you Olympic Committee.

And they will laugh all the way to the bank.

I could be wrong, but I think they thought, trucking in snow was a lot more economical than building a whole city in the middle of nowhere, and then leaving it to the wolves and badgers when everyone else went home.


68 posted on 02/13/2014 4:47:03 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

lol, at least we won’t freeze to death


69 posted on 02/13/2014 4:49:55 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy

as he showed by backing the hero of benghazi down in syria Putin is the Alpha dog.


70 posted on 02/13/2014 4:51:57 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Politically Correct

dead horse alaska.


71 posted on 02/13/2014 4:56:24 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: managusta

Worth noting that Northern Scandinavia, precisely because it’s on the other side of the polar vortex causing the exceptional conditions in North America, is having an exceptionally warm winter, 4 degrees C above average in some regions. I’ve just come back from skiing in arctic Finland, where it was a balmy - 5/10 rather than the -20+ I usually find there at this time of year. Bears are coming out of hibernation too early, and reindeer are starving because the snow has been through a thaw/freeze cycle and has reset so hard that they can’t scrape through it to the lichen on which they depend.


72 posted on 02/14/2014 1:53:18 AM PST by Winniesboy
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