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To: DManA
It is my deliberate choice to choose Jesus as my Lord and savior.

It is your deliberate choice NOT TO Believe JESUS for JESUS IS THE WORD. You can't accept what 'you want' without accepting and believing in your heart what JESUS says and you already shown you don't.

It is my deliberate prayerful reading of the Word that leads me to conclude that eternal torture is inconsistent with the loving God.

First of all, one doesn't conclude to Truth. You believe it. No one can please God without FAITH. Now you, also, did not take as TRUTH - when Jesus said - "So you will find favor and good repute In the sight of God and man. Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight."

And just another one you failed to believe as TRUTH. "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts are higher than your thoughts."

So thinking you can just say you accept Jesus while you have DELIBERATELY chose NOT to believe HIM doesn't work. No one can have themselves in 'man made teachings and think they found a short cut to 'save themselves' while not believing JESUS. You can only serve ONE master. 'Man-made teaching believers choose 'man/evil' to serve. There is ONLY ONE Way and it is NOT your way through 'your conclusion'.

ETERNAL torture is what 'man' chooses for themselves as they do NOT believe Jesus. See how deception works, you end up with exactly what you didn't want. And that's what catholicsm, mormonism, islam, JW, wicca and all 'religions' /man made teachings do. Their followers are deceived and they CANNOT see they are deceived nor do they want Truth and/or they do not even recognize TRUTH as TRUTH. They fight it constantly because of 'their pride'. And they rebel being told that, also. They make themselves unreachable. God says to tell them once and then tell them, again, and then have no use for them. If someone doesn't recognize TRUTH, they have no heart for Truth.

You can want all you want, but you don't get it 'your way' You do it like everyone does who are saved. You have one master and HE IS JESUS. And you BELIEVE what He says by Faith and DO NOT LEAN on your own understanding which is warped with bad teaching to begin with and a human mind trying to understand the supernatural shows an immense amount of pride which catholicism bathes in...pride. So drop it! One needs to be spiritually discerning and that comes with being filled with The Spirit. It's your choice, not God's for It IS FINISHED. Jesus done everything about salvation 2,000 years ago....the ball is in your court. So HE does NOT send anyone anywhere - it's ones own choice on what they believe and/or don't believe. And deception makes those willing to be deceived, deceived. Anyone who believes 'man' over GOD is easy prey for deception.

t is my deliberate prayerful reading of the Word that leads me to conclude ....

Now tells us 'where did Jesus say to deliberately and prayerfully conclude anything? He said the opposite... 'Just BELIEVE HIM' Your 'deliberate and prayerful' might sound 'religious' to you and it is...and it brought you back to where you started, being deceived with 'your conclusion'.

What part of this did you deliberately overlook? The Lord says, "These people worship me with their mouths and honor me with their lips. But their hearts are far from me, and their worship of me is [based on] rules made by humans."

Jesus said 'hear and obey'. So far you haven't heard/believed what HE said and therefore can't obey it. That's your choice, so deliberate prayer means nothing until you RENEW YOUR MIND to the WORD OF GOD and GOD is ALMIGHTY and admit you know you squat but must LEARN from what HE said. HE knows BEST as to HIS WAY. There are no short cuts but ONE WAY no matter 'what you conclude'. It's not your way - IT IS ALL ABOUT JESUS The Word.

And don't think you can have one foot in man made teachings and one foot in the Word of God and arrive at TRUTH. For Jesus said..... "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other." It's your choice to BELIEVE JESUS, not God's. So NEVER accuse Him of the ways/beliefs/conclusions and sins of man.

598 posted on 02/18/2014 10:24:56 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I believe the truth. The truth is no human soul suffers torture for all eternity. That is a lie right from Satan NOT JESUS.


599 posted on 02/19/2014 5:22:36 AM PST by DManA
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