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New York declares war on wild mute swans
The Australian ^ | 1-31-14

Posted on 01/31/2014 10:19:17 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

IN Britain, wild swans may be prized for their beauty and protected by the Queen, but the US state of New York has declared war on them, branding them a violent menace.

Draft proposals to kill or resettle the state's 2200 wild mute swans by 2025 may be supported by some conservationists but have sparked uproar among animal rights activists.

Mute swans were brought to North America by European settlers to adorn their estates in the late 1800s but the authorities no longer consider them a beauty worthy of roaming free.

The New York state department of environmental conservation says swans attack people, destroy vegetation, pose a threat to jetliners and damage water because their feces contain e coli.

Ever since US Airways flight 1549 collided with a flock of geese in 2009 and landed on the Hudson river, the US Department of Agriculture has set about annually culling Canada geese.

Now the New York state conservation department wants to expand the offensive and eliminate free-ranging mute swans by 2025, killing them or allowing "responsible ownership" of the birds in captivity.

"Lethal control methods will include shooting of free-ranging swans and live capture and euthanasia in accordance with established guidelines for wildlife," said the draft proposal.

Nests would also be destroyed, and eggs oiled, punctured or sterilised to prevent hatching, it added.

Pressure group Goose Watch NYC, which was set up to protest against the geese culls, demanded the plan be scrapped.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.com.au ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: conservation; dnr; government; swans
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To: afraidfortherepublic

First the Governor of NY wants to get rid of all conservatives and Christians. Now they are targeting the swans! Simply outrageous.

Swans mate for life. If one dies, the other just pines away. I guess it goes along with Cuomo’s war on traditional marriage!


2 posted on 01/31/2014 10:21:28 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They’re pests around here.

I wish we could hunt them but they’re too similar to the native trumpeter swans to tell them apart at distance.


3 posted on 01/31/2014 10:22:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Mute swans are hyper-aggressive, will drive off other water fowl and attack anyone in their territory, including people. They will also empty a pond of fish, since they are voracious eaters.

A pair are very beautiful. More than a pair are a menace.


4 posted on 01/31/2014 10:28:01 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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5 posted on 01/31/2014 10:28:02 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Do they make good eatin’?


6 posted on 01/31/2014 10:28:37 AM PST by Dedbone
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To: afraidfortherepublic; SunkenCiv; thackney; yorkiemom; All

What is the highest measured elevation of an European Swan in flight?

The ones that I have seen rarely fly, and those that do stay within tens of feet above. water.


7 posted on 01/31/2014 10:28:43 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Send them back to England, where there’s a swan shortage because the ethnic Albanian asylum seekers have literally eaten them all out of the park ponds.

on that note, a limerick from St. John’s college in Oxford:

There was a young man from St John’s
Who wanted to bugger the swans
“Oh no,” said the porter,
“Please just take my daughter,
Them swans is reserved for the Dons”


8 posted on 01/31/2014 10:29:50 AM PST by babble-on
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Well, I’d take a pair. I’d even build a pond for them. The last time I checked (about 15 years ago) a pair cost more than $1000.


9 posted on 01/31/2014 10:33:02 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Are we allowed to call them mute? Maybe speaking challenged? And they are all special!


10 posted on 01/31/2014 10:34:39 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

Teach them ASL (American Swan Language)


11 posted on 01/31/2014 10:41:20 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
A pair are very beautiful. More than a pair are a menace.

We had more than 60 of them on 180 acres of water. I think the DNR quietly eliminated most of them and there were only about 4 pairs that first year. Now there are probably 50 of them again about 4 years later.
12 posted on 01/31/2014 10:41:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Mute Swans cannot speak for themselves.


13 posted on 01/31/2014 10:49:50 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: cripplecreek

Is there a behavioral difference between the Trumpeter and the Mute swans? I thought all those big geese were prone to aggressive behavior and being overly territorial. If you rush them with equal force the ganders usually back off.


14 posted on 01/31/2014 10:50:06 AM PST by lee martell
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To: Dedbone

Roasted swan used to be the food of English royalty, until the colonists brought the American turkey back to the realm.

Seems the dryness we associate with turkey was a boon to the English, since swan is the oiliest of all waterfowl meat.

Mute swans are anything but, since they can “blare like a bugle or bark like a dog”, and the leading edge of their wings is lined with knoblike `knucklebone’ that can break an arm or crumple a galvanized pail.

The mute swans of the Thames are well known for their ferocity.


15 posted on 01/31/2014 10:55:22 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"Lethal control methods will include shooting of free-ranging swans and live capture and euthanasia in accordance with established guidelines for wildlife," said the draft proposal.

Can't they just use the traditional method of killing wild birds: building a wind turbine?

16 posted on 01/31/2014 10:55:38 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Don’t let children near them, and be careful yourself.

They’re nasty buggers, and will attack people within reach.


17 posted on 01/31/2014 1:42:05 PM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There is a solitary Mute Swan on the nearby TVA lake. It has lived there for years and bird watchers go to observe it and check it off their life list.

Although there are nice homes on one shore, the bird is wild and adapted to the habitat.


18 posted on 01/31/2014 1:47:02 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Graewoulf
Not sure how high these Swans can fly but I have seen Wood Storks flying at 3500 feet over Florida. They were trucking along in a group of 4 or 5 in loose formation, not like the big “V” that geese form. Because of the huge difference in relative airspeed, (my plane indicating 165 kts, and their speed a fraction of that) though we were both traveling in the same direction I was upon them quickly. Thankfully they were slightly to my left and I didn't need to take evasive action.
My guess is that Swans could fly at least that high.
19 posted on 01/31/2014 2:05:15 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
“Annually culling Canada Geese”. I'm sure that the goose hunters are doing their fair share. Only problem is that the geese probably can't be shot near the LaGuardia Airport.
20 posted on 01/31/2014 2:08:54 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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