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To: KC_Lion; Impy; NKP_Vet; Bender2; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican

MacArthur got a bad rap.

Picture a commander being told to get out of Dodge, leave your poorly-equipped / supplied command and men behind to face an onslaught of Japanese troops.

43,000 battle-hardened Japanese troops faced off against 15,000 Americans and approx 70,000 poorly-trained, poorly-equipped Filipinos.

The Pacific fleet sat on the bottom of Pearl Harbor. The Far East air fleet was destroyed on the tarmac. The Japanese owned the sky and the sea for the time being.

Those valiant troops on Bataan held the Japs at bay for three months and slaughtered them, all the while performing a fighting retreat further and further into the Bataan jungle, with no hope of resupply, or relief. They did so much damage to the Japs that General Homma was going to commit ritual seppuku in front of the Emperor out of humiliation. One of the reasons the Death March happened was because of the humiliation the Japs endured at the hands of the Americans and Filipino defenders.

FDR ordered MacArthur to leave; the Japanese were broadcasting over the radio, saying they were going to publicly HANG MacArthur and his family when they captured him. FDR ordered him to leave and get to Australia to start to organize and build up there.

And he went back in force later... as he promised.

He planned an amazing landing at Inchon later on in Korea, and was absolutely correct in that China and Russia were the real enemy behind that war.


25 posted on 01/31/2014 5:52:40 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; KC_Lion; Impy; NKP_Vet; Bender2; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican
RE :”He planned an amazing landing at Inchon later on in Korea, and was absolutely correct in that China and Russia were the real enemy behind that war.”

China was behind the eastern (Pacific) part of WWII????Maybe you mean 'after that war'

Having trouble following that.

Mao Zedong didn't take over till 1949.
In fact Europeans lived in China (Shanghai )till Japanese rounded them up. In fact many Jews fled Europe (Hitler) and went to China.

That was clearly the Japanese that started that pretty much on their own, and they are partially responsible for the communists taking over China..

27 posted on 01/31/2014 6:00:44 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: NFHale

And he was fired by a commander-in-chief that didn’t want to win wars by the name of Harry Truman. This notion of going to fight wars with no intention to win them has cost this country mightily in tax dollar and human life ever, and respect around the world. It all started in Korea when the little no-knowing Harry Truman fired one of the greatest general officers in the history of the country. Obama reminds of Truman, firing generals that actually want to win wars.


38 posted on 01/31/2014 8:26:50 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christian raisin', and 8th grade education, aint no need ya'll treatin' me this way")
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To: NFHale
re Korea, a little known fact is that Truman secured the enemy flank by ordering the 7th fleet to patrol the Taiwan straight. Prior to Truman's securing the enemy flank the Chicoms had hundreds of thousand to troops there guarding against a possible invasion by Chai Ki Chech (sp?). Guess where those troops went once Truman assured the Chicoms there would be no invasion? Yup Korea, Truman was a complete fool. The general, just by threatening the Chinese flank, had taken the Chinese out of the picture and had victory in sight. Truman's stupidity cost tens of thousands of American lives. Oh and just prior to North Korea invading South Korea, Truman ordered Mac to withdraw all US forces from Korea and declared Korea outside the US sphere of influence. Basically saying the USA did not give a damn about Korea.

In any REAL history MacArthur was one of history's great commanders. He made mistakes for sure, but not many and not often. He has also the most decorated American of WW1, decorated for bravery in action.

40 posted on 01/31/2014 8:56:05 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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