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To: MikefromOhio

I’m glad the GOP finally wised up to electoral realities and took an issue off of the table for the leftists to whine about all summer long.
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Contrary to most of the FReeper comments I’ve read here, I tend to agree with you.

I may be confused because of all the pro/con articles I’ve read about this. However, from what I gather:
1) The majority of the sequester is still in place. This bill reduces the sequester cuts to the Dept. of Defense.
2) As you indicated, the new Congress after the 2014 elections is not obligated to adhere to this deal.
3) It does take the whole budget argument off the table for 2014, and allows the GOPe and Conservatives to keep the heat on Obamacare and the other Democrat/Obama Admin. scandals.


59 posted on 12/12/2013 11:10:29 PM PST by octex
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To: octex

All of your arguments may be valid, in the near term. However, who is considering our children and grandchildren?


60 posted on 12/12/2013 11:19:21 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier
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To: octex
I’m glad the GOP finally wised up to electoral realities and took an issue off of the table for the leftists to whine about all summer long.

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Contrary to most of the FReeper comments I’ve read here, I tend to agree with you.

I may be confused because of all the pro/con articles I’ve read about this. However, from what I gather:

1) The majority of the sequester is still in place. This bill reduces the sequester cuts to the Dept. of Defense.

2) As you indicated, the new Congress after the 2014 elections is not obligated to adhere to this deal.

3) It does take the whole budget argument off the table for 2014, and allows the GOPe and Conservatives to keep the heat on Obamacare and the other Democrat/Obama Admin. scandals.


For the system to change, the politicians need to break the current paradigm. The only way that happens is if the GOP starts winning elections and moving the right people in who can reform the system. How do you do that? By beating the Dems to the punch, pulling their issues that they always win the low information voters with to your side or at least to neutral and making short-term compromises that beget you more seats to make long term changes.

I don't particularly care if people agree with me, this isn't some stupid damn popularity contest or anything. It's must more important than having FReepers agree with me on some internet forum, ya know?

One caveat (which I posted originally and has since been glossed over by people raging): IF this compromise is attuned to the elections (I think it is) and IF the needed reforms happen after the GOP gains both houses of Congress (it might), then, if the reforms happen, this was a good deal.

If they don't, it was all for nothing and let the rage continue.

What people do not understand on this forum is even the most conservative congresscritter or senator will as gladly stab you in the back as shake your hand. Where the Republicans and the Democrats in Congress are different is how well they play the election game. The Republicans have been entirely inept at it since a certain Congressman from Georgia resigned in early 1999.
72 posted on 12/13/2013 7:48:40 AM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: octex

It was real smart to trash and trash and insult the base with lies !
Bonehead and Rayan have killed the Gop with this crap.

The Real reason fir this was to Ram Thru Amnesty for the K street Billionaires !
They have sold out all of Us.
That was theReal strategy ,
Wake up


112 posted on 12/15/2013 12:24:28 PM PST by ncalburt ( AmnestySad media out in full force ing)
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