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To: MikefromOhio

Weird. When our side acts like conservatives and not democrats we win elections. There were more than two options here. It isn’t this bill or shutdown.

My only reason for not caring too much about this failure is that this current leadership team is so massively incompetent, I doubt they can do much better under any scenario.

We are at a point of no confidence in the party leadership. The only thing that will cost us the midterm is complete disgust and another complete failure by the senate campaign apparatus that has been a disaster for two cycles.


51 posted on 12/12/2013 7:08:10 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: ilgipper

I largely agree.

But this agreement takes a rather large elephant out of the room for the 2014 elections.

Sequester, perhaps another shut down - all that stuff would detract from what the main focus should be in the mid-terms and that is the absolute and abject disaster that Obamacare is and will continue to be for the working families in this country.

Now the GOP can say “Hey, we got a budget deal done. However, this program is such an albatross we need to get it repealed as quickly as possible”...

As I said, if that was the goal and if, when newly returned with fresh majorities they actually get to work on the budget for real instead of this deadlocked Congress, then it was worth it.

If they don’t, I’ll join the rage against the machine too. It isn’t really a matter of trust - trusting a politician is just asking to get corn-holed - it’s a matter of competence.


73 posted on 12/13/2013 7:52:15 AM PST by MikefromOhio
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